'I felt like I was a doll'
Arctic_Menace @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:24 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
It's called freedom, baby. I know you right-wingers loathe the word, but that's why we should legalize prositution.
jason700 @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:19 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
One more time.
If you and people like you believe this is right, put it in a public platform and run with it in the next federal election. Let the people decide what they think is best.
If you and people like you believe this is right, put it in a public platform and run with it in the next federal election. Let the people decide what they think is best.
Translation: "All of our arguments have been totally obliterated and we have nothing more to say."
Pimpbrewski @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:36 am
This should not be about whether prostitution is legalized or not.
Instead they should make it free, that way some, especially Arctic Menace, could get laid a bit more. 
Arctic_Menace @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:49 am
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
This should not be about whether prostitution is legalized or not.
Instead they should make it free, that way some, especially Arctic Menace, could get laid a bit more.
Instead they should make it free, that way some, especially Arctic Menace, could get laid a bit more.
Pfft. Bitch, please.
The ladies love me.
Also, why are you pushing so ahrd for this be legalized?
Brenda @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:57 am
Pimp, baby... If it was free, it wouldn't be prostitution, AND... you would be out of a job and a nickname 
Pimpbrewski @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:07 am
Oh that's right, prostitution is the only way that I can get some. So yea, go right ahead and legalize it.
DerbyX @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:12 am
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
Oh that's right, prostitution is the only way that I can get some. So yea, go right ahead and legalize it.
Thats not true. I'm sure there are other ways girls would do you.
Pity. A drunken revenge lay. She lost a bet. Done on a dare.
Pimpbrewski @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:16 am
DerbyX DerbyX:
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
Oh that's right, prostitution is the only way that I can get some. So yea, go right ahead and legalize it.
She lost a bet. Done on a dare.
Those sound about right with lots of money involved !
romanP @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:53 am
commanderkai commanderkai:
lily lily:
romanP romanP:
The difference is that if a prostitute goes to the police because she was abused, she'll likely be arrested. This is essentially the same as putting the blame for rape on the victim. If a person abused by an alcoholic goes to the police, they will get help.
I don't think this is true.
It's not true, if a prostitute was a victim, they'd probably grant her immunity for whatever testimony she has against whatever rapist or other criminal she was a victim to.
Okay, so I didn't exactly research what I said, but here's the thing: going to the police is not the first thing that street people often think of when they're in trouble, because they think they'll be arrested for being in their situation, whether it's being a crack addict or a prostitute or both.
romanP @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:57 am
commanderkai commanderkai:
DerbyX DerbyX:
How many out of legit buisnesses do that? Nobody is denying that their are loads of illegal sex trade workers and that because the industry itslef is completely unlicensed and unregulated. The same checks and balances that exist for legal buisnesses would exist here.
One thing you are neglecting is that these women are lured here under the pretense of legal employment of one sort or another. Once here and turned to prostitution they get told point blank they are comitting crime in Canada and will be severely punished if they go to the police. Thats why they don't until either caught in a raid or they know better. A legal brothel would help this problem because just like any liquor inspection they can easily do the same for the girls and their credentials.
One thing you are neglecting is that these women are lured here under the pretense of legal employment of one sort or another. Once here and turned to prostitution they get told point blank they are comitting crime in Canada and will be severely punished if they go to the police. Thats why they don't until either caught in a raid or they know better. A legal brothel would help this problem because just like any liquor inspection they can easily do the same for the girls and their credentials.
But should we legalize sweatshops now? There are tons of illegal sweatshops in North America, should we legalize them all and try to make a profit? The whole sweatshop industry RELIES on illegal immigration, just like prostitution relies on either desperate girls from broken homes here, or immigrants.
How about we stick to the topic instead of jumping to all sorts of hairbrained conclusions that have nothing to do with the topic. We aren't talking about legalising child prostitution, we aren't talking about legalising sweatshops. We're especially not talking about legalising sex with a goat (I know you didn't say that, but it's the next ridiculous and irrelevant example of crazy things to legalise that people of your viewpoint typically resort to.) We're talking about legalising paid sex between two consenting adults.
If you don't know what that means, please move along and let the informed do the talking.
romanP @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:04 pm
commanderkai commanderkai:
DerbyX DerbyX:
My source above contradicts you both. In addition, you are forgetting that even if the police wouldn't prosecute the women it doesn't mean that the women don't go to the police out of fear they would be prosecuted.
Actually no, your source just states that they FEAR prosecution, not that it actually happens. There is a difference Derby.
The difference is purely semantics. The people who need the help of the police the most are not going to go to the police because they fear arrest, whether it will actually happen or not.
ridenrain @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:02 pm
jason700 jason700:
ridenrain ridenrain:
One more time.
If you and people like you believe this is right, put it in a public platform and run with it in the next federal election. Let the people decide what they think is best.
If you and people like you believe this is right, put it in a public platform and run with it in the next federal election. Let the people decide what they think is best.
Translation: "All of our arguments have been totally obliterated and we have nothing more to say."
You people have taken a horrid story on abuse and human trafficing, the sale and enslavement of people as simply a marketable comodity, and turned it into some kind of noble career.
Go back and read the original story and tell me that any the womans right weren't violated. Tell us that this was acceptable in you're vision of Canada.
Next I suppose that the Picton murders a "progressive" step foward also?
DerbyX @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:13 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
You people have taken a horrid story on abuse and human trafficing, the sale and enslavement of people as simply a marketable comodity, and turned it into some kind of noble career.
Go back and read the original story and tell me that any the womans right weren't violated. Tell us that this was acceptable in you're vision of Canada.
Next I suppose that the Picton murders a "progressive" step foward also?
Tell me how dening other women legal protection would have helped this person. Tell me how her rights were protected by the illegality of prostitution.
Whether you like it or not women in this proffesion deserve the same legal rights and protections as other people and just because you think Canadian law should be used to enforce your morality doesn't mean the rest of us find that acceptable.
Brenda @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:15 pm
No, Riden, "we people" haven't.
This story had not so much to do with the legalization of prostitution. It is a horror story. Which might have been prevented with legal brothels.
Pushing ANYONE into doing something they don't want is violating their rights. But denying people what they want to do for a living, especially if it is something most of us love, AND something that is completely natural, like having sex, is imo, violating the freedom to do with my body what I want.
I can have sex with the whole world, but once I get paid for it, it is illegal? Weird...
Pimpbrewski @ Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:18 pm
Brenda Brenda:
I can have sex with the whole world,
No.
You only need sex with me, then and only then, will you be satisfied.
PS if I dont respond right away, that means I am watching a football game.