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Exactly. No one is doubting that soldiers and the military provide a vital contribution, but i'm not about to judge and form conclusions about someone's patriotism simply on the basis of their vocation. It's insulting, offensive and it defies common sense. I'm not sure how an engineer is somehow a "lesser person" because he/she choses that profession versus a member of the Canadian Armed Forces? Why even begin to evaluate it?

   

Oh stop being so pompous.

You are not going to change my views on this. Any further 'debate' is quite futile.

By the way, it was a cheap shot at your sometime verbose posts. I apologise.

   

How exactly am i being pretentious when your casting judgments on vocations? I simply find it difficult to dismiss people's level of citizenry based solely on their job description.

And this "debate" as such isn't one as it assumes that your opinion counts for anything more than subjective beliefs. Are you honestly under the misguided notion that you can quantify "patriotism"? Again, it's an blatant advocacy of arbitrary superiority based solely on the idea that ONE social role outweights ALL others. Sorry, not buying it.

In regards to my alleged "verbose" posts, i'd say the last few were decidedly succinct, but apology accepted.

   

That's the whole point that I was trying to make. Patriotism and value as a Canadian are more than simply a profession. Timothy McVeigh must be one hell of an American, afterall, he was in the service. Ditto Lee Harvey Oswald, a former Marine who defected to the Soviet Union AND killed Kennedy...why aren't they handing out LHO coins on Independence Day? According to your juevenile categorizing, these two are better Americans than Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin.

If you want to judge the "Canadianess" of various Canadians, be my guest, but their vocation shouldn't be the sole criterion, lest you end up with the above examples of sheer stupidity.

   

Actually they were quite concise for you! And I'm glad you acepted my apology. I really think we have all got past the cheap shot stage after many verbal battles.

Anyway chaps, I had fun but this horse is well flogged. I respect your opinions and I don't share them.

A good night to all, I'm up at 0330 hrs, gotta sleep!

   

   

did I miss something...where are you getting your information

   

Actually, I think you are missing mine. The quote specifically says those who refuse to stand up for those around them are lesser then those who do. Who says doctors and teacher's don't? It was aimed at those who vehemently oppose any action to defend ourselves.

   

It was a response to streaker? Really? Did I quote him? Actually, Layton, and most of the NDP refuse to. Don't make assumptions, you make yourself look like a fool.

   

Soldiers, on the front line, may not be better than anyone else as human beings. Not saying that any profession is better than the rest either. But, surely, military personnel do deserve recognition.

That means whether you support the war or not.

   

You said yourself there is no reason to address streaker with it. Maybe that should have been a clue.


You're telling me to be clearer? How many times in an argument to you say "you miss my point". I'm starting to wonder if you have a point, ever.

As for you question, there is no one on this planet that dense.

   

Seems most other people don't have an issue with it, why do you and you superior writing and reading skills have an issue? You always say you were this fantastic writer, yet people always seem to miss your point.

   

You know what. I'll sit and relax.

Pass the popcorn.

Huh, let's see, beer would be good with that too.

   

I'm in

   

Me too

   

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