Liberal MP moves to honour Trudeau with statue on Parliament
sandorski @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:40 pm
KetchupJoe KetchupJoe:
Love or Hate him, Trudeau is a very significant Canadian PM.
Hitler and Stalin were significant leaders as well, but honouring them makes as much sense as honouring Trudeau.
He went out of his way to rape the country, and in a lot of ways he succeeded.
Yes, he was charasmatic...but so are most con men.
Hitler and Stalin were significant leaders as well, but honouring them makes as much sense as honouring Trudeau.
He went out of his way to rape the country, and in a lot of ways he succeeded.
Yes, he was charasmatic...but so are most con men.
So, he's comparable to Hitler and Stalin?
Ridiculous
KetchupJoe @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:57 pm
How is it rediculous? Uncle Joe and Adolph were on a different scale, obviously, but the point is...they all went out of their way to do the wrong thing. Much like Dubya is doing now.
It's not a hard thing to grasp...
EyeBrock @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:15 pm
Love him or loathe him ( and I loathe him), to many Canadians he is a hero.
Even though I was totally opposed to much of his politics , I have no doubt he did what he thought was right for Canada.
As a leader he was charismatic and very colourful, and he showed true leadership during the FLQ crises.
He deserves a statue.
That's this Tory's view.
EyeBrock @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:15 pm
Love him or loathe him ( and I loathe him), to many Canadians he is a hero.
Even though I was totally opposed to much of his politics , I have no doubt he did what he thought was right for Canada.
As a leader he was charismatic and very colourful, and he showed true leadership during the FLQ crises.
He deserves a statue.
That's this Tory's view.
bootlegga @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:27 pm
martin14 martin14:
boy, I'm gonna get razzed for this..
I agree with the statue.. PET was a great PM for Canada.
tough with the FLQ..
strong federalist when negotiating with provinces..
i know people in Alberta werent happy with the Energy program, but that was also in the interests of ALL Canada.
best results with Quebec referendum 60 / 40 .. no 51/49 BS
getting us a constitution... i loved that " well there's a second list " comment..
no problem telling the Americans to fuck off .. when they deserved it
a strong CANADIAN all around.
Only thing to criticize is this 'multicultural' idea, but you must remember the situation was VERY different back then.. even Holland wasnt in the trouble it is in now.
and Trudeau looks even better when you look at that sob Mulroney who came after him.
so, there it is .. let the flaming begin
I agree with the statue.. PET was a great PM for Canada.
tough with the FLQ..
strong federalist when negotiating with provinces..
i know people in Alberta werent happy with the Energy program, but that was also in the interests of ALL Canada.
best results with Quebec referendum 60 / 40 .. no 51/49 BS
getting us a constitution... i loved that " well there's a second list " comment..
no problem telling the Americans to fuck off .. when they deserved it
a strong CANADIAN all around.
Only thing to criticize is this 'multicultural' idea, but you must remember the situation was VERY different back then.. even Holland wasnt in the trouble it is in now.
and Trudeau looks even better when you look at that sob Mulroney who came after him.
so, there it is .. let the flaming begin
Good post!
He wasn't good for any one part of Canada consistently, but alwasy tried to do what he thought was best for ALL of Canada, not one province or region.
ziggy @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:29 pm
bootlegga bootlegga:
martin14 martin14:
boy, I'm gonna get razzed for this..
I agree with the statue.. PET was a great PM for Canada.
tough with the FLQ..
strong federalist when negotiating with provinces..
i know people in Alberta werent happy with the Energy program, but that was also in the interests of ALL Canada.
best results with Quebec referendum 60 / 40 .. no 51/49 BS
getting us a constitution... i loved that " well there's a second list " comment..
no problem telling the Americans to fuck off .. when they deserved it
a strong CANADIAN all around.
Only thing to criticize is this 'multicultural' idea, but you must remember the situation was VERY different back then.. even Holland wasnt in the trouble it is in now.
and Trudeau looks even better when you look at that sob Mulroney who came after him.
so, there it is .. let the flaming begin
I agree with the statue.. PET was a great PM for Canada.
tough with the FLQ..
strong federalist when negotiating with provinces..
i know people in Alberta werent happy with the Energy program, but that was also in the interests of ALL Canada.
best results with Quebec referendum 60 / 40 .. no 51/49 BS
getting us a constitution... i loved that " well there's a second list " comment..
no problem telling the Americans to fuck off .. when they deserved it
a strong CANADIAN all around.
Only thing to criticize is this 'multicultural' idea, but you must remember the situation was VERY different back then.. even Holland wasnt in the trouble it is in now.
and Trudeau looks even better when you look at that sob Mulroney who came after him.
so, there it is .. let the flaming begin
Good post!
He wasn't good for any one part of Canada consistently, but alwasy tried to do what he thought was best for ALL of Canada, not one province or region.
sandorski @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:05 pm
KetchupJoe KetchupJoe:
How is it rediculous? Uncle Joe and Adolph were on a different scale, obviously, but the point is...they all went out of their way to do the wrong thing. Much like Dubya is doing now.
It's not a hard thing to grasp...
It's not a hard thing to grasp...
You're way over the top. Name 1 PM who hasn't done at least 1 thing wrong.
I hope they do make a Trudeau Statue, I'd like to see the partisans have a collective heart attack about it.
KetchupJoe @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:22 pm
Ummm...it's not about doing 1 thing wrong...we wouldn't be human if we didn't make mistakes....
I'll try and explain it again...
Trudeau tried to do the wrong thing...that's different than making mistakes. We shouldn't reward that...despite what many Liberals say...
Take care...blessings...
Schleihauf @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:29 pm
Ok I know nothing about Trudeau can someone give me a summary of why people love/hate him so much? Please if you can leave your partisanship at the door.
mtbr @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:50 pm
Schleihauf Schleihauf:
Ok I know nothing about Trudeau can someone give me a summary of why people love/hate him so much? Please if you can leave your partisanship at the door.
....
bootlegga @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:13 pm
martin14 martin14:
boy, I'm gonna get razzed for this..
I agree with the statue.. PET was a great PM for Canada.
tough with the FLQ..
strong federalist when negotiating with provinces..
i know people in Alberta werent happy with the Energy program, but that was also in the interests of ALL Canada.
best results with Quebec referendum 60 / 40 .. no 51/49 BS
getting us a constitution... i loved that " well there's a second list " comment..
no problem telling the Americans to fuck off .. when they deserved it
a strong CANADIAN all around.
Only thing to criticize is this 'multicultural' idea, but you must remember the situation was VERY different back then.. even Holland wasnt in the trouble it is in now.
and Trudeau looks even better when you look at that sob Mulroney who came after him.
so, there it is .. let the flaming begin
I agree with the statue.. PET was a great PM for Canada.
tough with the FLQ..
strong federalist when negotiating with provinces..
i know people in Alberta werent happy with the Energy program, but that was also in the interests of ALL Canada.
best results with Quebec referendum 60 / 40 .. no 51/49 BS
getting us a constitution... i loved that " well there's a second list " comment..
no problem telling the Americans to fuck off .. when they deserved it
a strong CANADIAN all around.
Only thing to criticize is this 'multicultural' idea, but you must remember the situation was VERY different back then.. even Holland wasnt in the trouble it is in now.
and Trudeau looks even better when you look at that sob Mulroney who came after him.
so, there it is .. let the flaming begin
Good post!
kenmore @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:23 pm
there are many good books about Pierre Trudeau... there are some very well written and there are good websites about him...
I had a prof for political science that was well versed on the man and told his story from a non partisan unbiased historian point of view...thats what you need to read...
ps dont pay attention to mtbr ... he is tory brainwashes
ziggy @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:24 pm
kenmore kenmore:
there are many good books about Pierre Trudeau... there are some very well written and there are good websites about him...
I had a prof for political science that was well versed on the man and told his story from a non partisan unbiased historian point of view...thats what you need to read...
ps dont pay attention to mtbr ... he is tory brainwashes
I had a prof for political science that was well versed on the man and told his story from a non partisan unbiased historian point of view...thats what you need to read...
ps dont pay attention to mtbr ... he is tory brainwashes
I saw him give the west the finger,we have long memories here.
sandorski @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:27 pm
KetchupJoe KetchupJoe:
Ummm...it's not about doing 1 thing wrong...we wouldn't be human if we didn't make mistakes....
I'll try and explain it again...
Trudeau tried to do the wrong thing...that's different than making mistakes. We shouldn't reward that...despite what many Liberals say...
Take care...blessings...
I'll try and explain it again...
Trudeau tried to do the wrong thing...that's different than making mistakes. We shouldn't reward that...despite what many Liberals say...
Take care...blessings...
Time to get over it and quit thinking of him on the level of Stalin/Hitler. Unless you can produce a few million(hell, I'll give you a break and settle for a dozen) cadavers the result of some evil action, you're position is ridiculous.
2Cdo @ Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:27 pm
martin14 martin14:
getting us a constitution.
Maybe in such a great document he could have added property rights, something we used to have but don't now.