Liberals hope to ban firearms used in Polytechnique, Dawson
Trudeau includes website, Facebook group, and locksmith in firearm ban
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Justin Trudeau’s sweeping firearm ban on Friday included two websites and a Facebook page. In the government’s haste to ban 1,500 firearms in Canada, they literally included “AR15.Com ARFCOM,” “AR15.Com AR15.Com,” and “AR15 Chatterbox CB-15.”
ARFCOM is a slang term used by members of the firearms community for AR15.com.
Published widely, including on the official Government of Canada news site the Canada Gazette, not one media outlet who was allowed in to the Prime Minister’s morning briefing has questioned the presence of social media and websites on an official executive order of the Trudeau government.
The Facebook page in question has noted the fact that the Canadian Government has officially banned the transfer, sale, transport, and use of their social media page. The website AR15.com does not yet seem aware that they are officially banned by the Government of Canada – a high honour.
In addition to the AR-15 fan website and random Facebook page that have both now been classified as “prohibited military-style assault weapons,” the massive list also includes “Bartlett Enterprises 1202009.” Bartlett Enterprises is a locksmithing company based in Saint John. It is not clear if Justin Trudeau intended to add a business that cuts keys and installs deadbolts to the list of federally prohibited firearms.
Justin Trudeau's ham-fisted ban has been criticized by Canada's Official Opposition, with leadership candidates of the Conservative Party claiming that laws of this type should be brought to Parliament for debate and review, especially given the Liberals are governing with the minority government. Instead of taking their time to get this right, Justin Trudeau's Administration opted for a unilateral implementation without even proofreading the massive regulatory change.
Although it may be embarrassing for the government, it is not clear if Trudeau will be amending the executive order. If they do not, the website and Facebook account may forever remain classified as prohibited firearms in Canada.
https://www.rebelnews.com/trudeau_bans_ ... irearm_ban

Tricks @ Sat May 02, 2020 12:00 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
More of your lies. . Marc Lapine was not Muslim.
Uh yes, Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharb was a muslim.
No he wasn't. He was baptized catholic never participated in religion growing up and was a self proclaimed atheist.
His father was a muslim, but he hated his father. So unlikely he'd take on that religion.
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
All I hear is a lot of wah wah nonsense and straw man arguments. Farmers and gun enthusiasts still have a wide variety of firearms available to them for their needs/hobbies.
Ending racial profiling street checks has nothing to do with this.
The weapons available to police officers has nothing to do with this.
Bother are Red Herring bullishit.
What Happened To @JustinTrudeau Promise That Registering Firearms With The Gov. Will Never Lead To The Confiscation Of Firearms From Legal Gun Owners?
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PETERBOROUGH, ON – The Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association (CSAAA) is calling for the removal of Minister Bill Blair from the Public Safety file immediately.
Following a reading of yesterday’s regulation banning a swath of semi-automatic firearms and a briefing with representatives from Public Safety, CBSA, Global Affairs, the R.C.M.P. and Justice, it was abundantly clear that the regulations were rushed through and are flawed, unfair and dangerous.
“The Government could not answer simple questions about processes; why bolt action firearms were included on the list; how shipments en-route to Canada for law enforcement contracts would be handled; would carriers currently in possession of shipments that are now prohibited be covered without a prohibited license and what is their liability; if firearms businesses fail and can’t ensure the security of their inventory what should they do; and on and on,” said Alison de Groot, Managing Director of the CSAAA. “It was almost like the departments weren’t told this was coming either.”
Included in the regulation is a provision for owners of the now prohibited firearms to export them during the amnesty. This was presented to the CSAAA in their briefing as an opportunity for business owners to “return” unsold product. Unfortunately, U.S. export permits do not allow for any products sent from the U.S. to be re-exported out of Canada. When the CSAAA asked the Government if they had informed the U.S. and negotiated an exception so Canadian businesses can “return” unsold product they said they had not made any prior arrangement with the U.S.
The CSAAA also noted that some firearms on this “banned” list have very similar characteristics as other firearms not on the list. “There are a huge number of contradictions between the definitions outlined in the regulation and the list in the Gazette and reflected in the FRT. It’s completely random and unbelievably unfair that one manufacturer is targeted and another one is not, even though the firearms have the same characteristics,” said de Groot.
“We see so many security and public safety issues with this legislation, it’s incredibly dangerous and completely unfair. This OIC is a knee-jerk emotional reaction enacted in an amateur way and demonstrates gross negligence and incompetence. As a result, we feel the Prime Minister and Canadians have been grossly underserved and ill advised by Minister Blair and call for his immediate removal from Public Safety.
The CSAAA is consulting with industry members and its legal advisors to explore all options to defend and protect our Canadian small business owners and the 48,000 Canadian jobs the industry supports. In the meantime, the CSAAA is advising all business owners to consult the updated FRT prior to making any sales, retain their inventory of the affected firearms while the amnesty period is in effect, and follow all proper storage requirements.
https://www.csaaa.org/sporting-arms-ind ... VuFj7qVYeIAnother botched plan by the half wits in "government". Seems about right for the Liberals.
On the plus side though is the fact that Trudeau is running a minority gov't that at some point will come apart at the seams.
So, if people just hang on for the 2 years till the "amnesty" is supposedly over chances are better than 50/50 we'll have a new gov't that doesn't continually pander to the lowest demographic or foreign interests.
And, now that Trudeau's opened the door to using "orders in council" to enact legislation I can see this latest liberal attack on legal gun ownership being overturned, not where it belongs, in parliament but, in the Conservative Caucus. ![Cheer [cheer]](./images/smilies/icon_cheers.gif)

Scape @ Sat May 02, 2020 6:54 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
On the plus side though is the fact that Trudeau is running a minority gov't that at some point will come apart at the seams.
So, if people just hang on for the 2 years till the "amnesty" is supposedly over chances are better than 50/50 we'll have a new gov't that doesn't continually pander to the lowest demographic or foreign interests.
And, now that Trudeau's opened the door to using "orders in council" to enact legislation I can see this latest liberal attack on legal gun ownership being overturned, not where it belongs, in parliament but, in the Conservative Caucus.
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Agreed.
This is a blatant overreach and will not be supported at the polls. The argument that no criminal will obey laws so why have laws argument is flawed however. That is not how society works.
herbie @ Sat May 02, 2020 9:34 pm
Uhh if 4/5 support it, I think promising to reverse it would be what's political suicide.
Thanos @ Sat May 02, 2020 9:51 pm
Give it some time, especially over the next two years of the government and police harassing innocent owners, and then your alleged "4 out of 5 support" will have gone up in smoke. The Tories will be absolutely insane if they don't make the full reversal of all of Trudeau's firearms policies a major plank of their next election platform. They'll shore up all of the rural ridings and most of the suburban ones with something like this. And they'll never win in Toronto again, or in any of the other hard-left cities, so there's no point at all in wasting time, money, or effort trying to placate ridings that already hate them. From the private property aspect, the civil liberties one, and the basics of innocent until proven guilty there's no way it can't be a massive winning policy for them, just like Stephen Harper already proved with abolishing the long-gun registry.
Ten bucks says that until the next election maybe a thousand "assault" firearms that have arbitrarily rendered as illegal will be turned into the police, tops. And, if American gun buy-backs or surrenders are the guidepost, most of those will be ancient junkers that the owners can't sell because they're in such crappy condition or were crap to begin with, like a bunch of old Soviet or Italian garbage-rods. The owners will be tucking the good ones away nice and safe as we speak right now, not to be seen again until a future Conservative government gets rid of this idiotic over-reaction Trudeau's just done. These guys are not going to co-operate in any manner at all, and the only success the Libs will have achieved will have been to make them that much angrier than they already were before. Way to radicalize an already pissed-off demographic, Trudeau. Have fun dealing with the consequences of this decision. 
Hey, how come the RCMP and government haven't quite yet even bothered to tell the press which guns the Nova Scotia killer used in his rampage? Like how many were killed by his own weapons and how many with the guns he stole from the police vehicle he attacked? Are they sort of scared that the new bans will be undermined if it turn out that most of the dead were slain by the police guns he used? Will that not matter at all to the anti-gun fanatics? Or will they then go up another avenue to pursue their agenda and start demanding that the police be disarmed in order "to prevent another such tragedy"? Give them an inch and these quasi-totalitarians will take a million miles from you in the space of a blink of an eye. 
herbie herbie:
Uhh if 4/5 support it, I think promising to reverse it would be what's political suicide.
Gotta poll to back up those numbers?
And polls taken on the corner of Jane and Finch don't count.
Thanos @ Sat May 02, 2020 10:17 pm
Doesn't matter where a poll is taken. Because in this fair land the majority rules absolutely which gives the bulk of the population in urban Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver the entire right to dictate to everyone else who doesn't live there what they can/can't own and how to live their lives down to the last approved detail. Ain't a democracy that isn't overseen in the slightest by an elected senate, one that actually had some real power to ensure that dissenting citizens don't get trampled by sudden populist decisions made to cynically exploit a recent tragedy, a truly wonderful thing to live under? 
GUNTER: The Liberals' conniving and undemocratic gun control measures
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Gun control “was one of the key planks in our election campaign,” Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland told a news briefing on Thursday. “We received a strong mandate from Canadians to act on gun control.”
Um, maybe I should Google the results of the 2019 federal election again just to be sure but, if memory serves me, the Liberals only won a minority in that vote.
That means the Trudeau government doesn’t have a “strong mandate from Canadians” to do anything.
Especially not confiscate tens of millions of dollars of private property with the stroke of a pen. Without going to Parliament. In the middle of a public-health emergency.
The Trudeauites have decided to appease their base (which doesn’t know Thing One about gun violence), by pandering to fears about mass shootings, at a time when the public is fixated on the pandemic and Parliament is not sitting in a fashion that could hold the government to account.
Sounds a tad conniving to me. And undemocratic, too.
The ban on “assault-style” rifles — 1,500 models in all and maybe a total of 250,000 guns — is kind of a half measure. It’s not an outright ban of the guns on the government’s lengthy list. It’s more of a stranding...
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... l-measures
herbie @ Sun May 03, 2020 11:07 am
Take the poll anywhere you want, anytime.
Take it in ANY city north of the border, the numbers will be even worse for your case.
Take it in the most rural area. Most still won't give a shit about it.
As I told a nephew us rural types have hunting rifles that LOOK like hunting rifles and WORK as hunting rifles. Just like our 4x4s are dirty and full of dents, not decked with truck nuts and 22" chrome wheels. Their fucking tools, not status symbols.
If they're designed off the drawing board to kill people like assault rifles and handguns, you got very little support behind you.