Liberals win 3 ridings, but lose in Saskatchewan
EyeBrock @ Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:45 pm
Benoit Benoit:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Benoit Benoit:
A community conflict among Sikhs neo-Canadians has not much similarity with a community conflict among Natives (ante-Canadians).
What are you talking about?
There is no conflict in either community. The only difference is that the Sikh activists deliberately take over the constituencies where as the Indians were there by chance.
The main difference is that the Sikh activists brought with them, in Canada, an Indian conflict whereas, Natives have never been able to stop Canadians from bringing with them, on their territory, the European conflicts.
Wot are you going on about? You are sounding a bit loony mate!
Benoit @ Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:24 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Benoit Benoit:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Benoit Benoit:
A community conflict among Sikhs neo-Canadians has not much similarity with a community conflict among Natives (ante-Canadians).
What are you talking about?
There is no conflict in either community. The only difference is that the Sikh activists deliberately take over the constituencies where as the Indians were there by chance.
The main difference is that the Sikh activists brought with them, in Canada, an Indian conflict whereas, Natives have never been able to stop Canadians from bringing with them, on their territory, the European conflicts.
Wot are you going on about? You are sounding a bit loony mate!
Sorry, I don't write sound bites like Dion's "team player", "team builder".
Keemo @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:50 am
ryan29 ryan29:
we should find a monkey go down to toronto and ask people if they would vote for it , if it were the liberal candidate vs a consrvative candidate . i bet the results would be surprising and the liberals would win .
If there were only 2 candidates, a Tory and a monkey, the monkey would get my vote
Wally_Sconce @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:08 am
If Jesus ran for the conservatives, and Satan for the liberals. Toronto would still vote liberal by a few votes.
mtbr @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:09 am
Keemo Keemo:
ryan29 ryan29:
we should find a monkey go down to toronto and ask people if they would vote for it , if it were the liberal candidate vs a consrvative candidate . i bet the results would be surprising and the liberals would win .
If there were only 2 candidates, a Tory and a monkey, the monkey would get my vote
Liberals always vote for family members
Benoit @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:23 am
mtbr mtbr:
Keemo Keemo:
ryan29 ryan29:
we should find a monkey go down to toronto and ask people if they would vote for it , if it were the liberal candidate vs a consrvative candidate . i bet the results would be surprising and the liberals would win .
If there were only 2 candidates, a Tory and a monkey, the monkey would get my vote
Liberals always vote for family members
Extended family.
EyeBrock @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:34 am
Benoit Benoit:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Benoit Benoit:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Benoit Benoit:
A community conflict among Sikhs neo-Canadians has not much similarity with a community conflict among Natives (ante-Canadians).
What are you talking about?
There is no conflict in either community. The only difference is that the Sikh activists deliberately take over the constituencies where as the Indians were there by chance.
The main difference is that the Sikh activists brought with them, in Canada, an Indian conflict whereas, Natives have never been able to stop Canadians from bringing with them, on their territory, the European conflicts.
Wot are you going on about? You are sounding a bit loony mate!
Sorry, I don't write sound bites like Dion's "team player", "team builder".
I'm sorry but you are not making any sense.
Benoit @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:46 am
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Benoit Benoit:
Sorry, I don't write sound bites like Dion's "team player", "team builder".
I'm sorry but you are not making any sense.
Think.
dino_bobba_renno @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:21 am
Keemo Keemo:
ryan29 ryan29:
we should find a monkey go down to toronto and ask people if they would vote for it , if it were the liberal candidate vs a consrvative candidate . i bet the results would be surprising and the liberals would win .
If there were only 2 candidates, a Tory and a monkey, the monkey would get my vote
And so we conclude this weeks episode of "Why die hard Liberals make no sense".
Winnipegger @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:47 am
Sorry, was busy Monday night and all day Tuesday.
Don't read too much into the loss in north Saskatchewan. That seat switched parties before, it will again. Most importantly, the Liberal party lost that seat because the party itself screwed up. The Conservatives didn't do anything to win it, the Liberals lost it.
David Orchard was a PC member before the parties merged, and strenuously objected to the merger. He was kicked out of the party due to that objection; he joined the Liberals. David Orchard was a Stéphane Dion supporter at the Liberal leadership convention, in fact he brought about 152 delegates who voted any way Mr. Orchard told them. Mr. Orchard lives in the riding, owns and operates a farm that has been in his family for generations. Mr. Orchard rebuilt the riding association and built the riding executive. He spent a lot of his own money campaigning for the nomination. Then Stéphane Dion appointed a candidate, a former NDP MLA. That candidate is a woman and aboriginal, Stéphane said he wants more women in parliament, but why appoint an NDP member when a strong supporter was already there? That doesn't make sense. Liberals in Saskatchewan were split because of that. The Conservative candidate only won because of this internal Liberal conflict.
This reminds me of the northern Manitoba riding. An NDP MP voted one way on a bill because her constituents demanded it; the party wanted her to vote the other. Jack Layton kicked her out of the party over it. She ran as an independent in the last federal election, the NDP selected a different candidate. This split the NDP vote, allowing Tina Keeper to win. Tina is also an aboriginal woman, but she's very well known because she was a star of a TV show. More importantly though, the NDP screwed up; split their own vote. Now the Liberals split their vote in Saskatchewan.
Don't expect this mistake to be repeated. The Liberals will win north Saskatchewan back in the next general election.
Benoit @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:48 am
Only the hardcore political "freaks" get out voting in by-elections; best example: in Vancouver Quadra, Dan Grice of the Green Party has gathered 13.5% of the vote.
mtbr @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:51 am
Benoit Benoit:
Only the hardcore political "freaks" get out voting in by-elections; best example: in Vancouver Quadra, Dan Grice of the Green Party has gathered 13.5% of the vote.
must be something wrong with the system then
maybe we need electoral reform...
if this was Alberta I know we would need reform
Benoit @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:12 am
mtbr mtbr:
Benoit Benoit:
Only the hardcore political "freaks" get out voting in by-elections; best example: in Vancouver Quadra, Dan Grice of the Green Party has gathered 13.5% of the vote.
must be something wrong with the system then
maybe we need electoral reform...
if this was Alberta I know we would need reform
We need deliberative democracy and it's precisely that that my new federal party is proposing.
http://www.deliberative-democracy.net/
Schleihauf @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:51 am
I'm happy with the way the byelection turned out. Tories went in with zero and came out with one, almost two.
Benoit @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:37 pm
Flaherty, in today's edition of the Calgary Sun Flaherty, in today's edition of the Calgary Sun:
"It will be Premier (Dalton) McGuinty's legacy that he in two terms took Ontario from being the strongest economic province in the federation to a 'have-not' province."
This is a very cheap shot to get Ontarians' votes.