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Omar Khadr to be freed on bail while awaiting appeal

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Jabberwalker @ Thu May 07, 2015 4:31 pm

If he is still bent on Jihad, he will make great bait for those gathering intelligence on the depth of the Jihadist movement in Canada (assuming, of course that our intelligence people are competent). Let him out and flash up the cameras.

   



andyt @ Thu May 07, 2015 5:02 pm

martin14 martin14:
andyt andyt:
I've always argued for



a lot of things that are just bullshit.

Aren't you one of the bleeding hearts that likes to whine that he was a just a boy
and not a soldier and he did nothing wrong and those bad bad American bastards.

By that standard, he should just be let go, because he is just a poor boy,
and innocent.



It's sad you have to build straw men to knock down. He was a child soldier. That doesn't mean he didn't do anything, it means he doesn't have the same responsibility as an adult. Same with a kid committing murder in Canada - if they are sentenced as an adult, they get a life sentence but no more than 10 years in prison. He was a jihadi, he should be watched, but he also should be given the chance to make something of his life.

It's sad that you can only see things in black or white. There's a whole world of color out there, you really should try to see it.

   



2Cdo @ Thu May 07, 2015 6:14 pm

Better to only see in black and white than be completely blind like you.

   



BeaverFever @ Thu May 07, 2015 8:03 pm

2Cdo 2Cdo:
Better to only see in black and white than be completely blind like you.
.

It only looks like blindness to you because you put everything in black or white terms. Funny because all of these terrorists and extremists are black and white thinkers. To steal a line from Star Wars, only a Sith deals in absolutes.

   



herbie @ Thu May 07, 2015 8:33 pm

Regardless of all the arguments so far - he's been 13 years behind bars. Even the USSR let all their German prisoners go by 1956.
If he first degree murdered someone in Canada at 15... he would've been out long ago.

   



andyt @ Thu May 07, 2015 8:39 pm

Since he's only out until his appeal is decided, he'll likely have to go back for a couple of years at some point.

The guy was amazing when speaking to the media. His best line was "I'm sorry to disappoint Stephen Harper but I'm a better person than he thinks I am." Very self possessed. He's either really made something out of his incarceration, learned from adversity, or he's a jihadi true believer with incredible discipline. Time will tell.

   



Baddragon @ Thu May 07, 2015 9:37 pm

I am just glad, that he has been granted parole. 13 years in prison and God knows the torture he went thru in Gitmo, its a bit much. After all he was a child soldier, following his father, what choice does a 13 or 14 year old have really, incarcerated at 15, it must have been a living hell. Hopefully, he will settle down and become a good Canadian. I know I am going to get slammed for this. But i would say remember the October crisis, all those separatists bastard, who killed and bombed and terrorized a whole province, and today, the ones still alive are all on the government payroll, or pensioned.

   



herbie @ Thu May 07, 2015 9:42 pm

You'd think after being in a war, getting shot and spending half your life in jail would make anyone figure out they'd fucked up real good, But ya never know with people.
If he even thinks jihad it would more or less prove he's insane and should spend forever in a mental asylum....

   



andyt @ Thu May 07, 2015 9:51 pm

herbie herbie:
You'd think after being in a war, getting shot and spending half your life in jail would make anyone figure out they'd fucked up real good, But ya never know with people.
If he even thinks jihad it would more or less prove he's insane and should spend forever in a mental asylum....


That's true for anybody that thinks that way. It does seem like some sort of mass hysteria. But since we see many Americun Taliban exhibiting similar beliefs, it seems like a pretty common condition. Maybe it's a virus or a fungus.


   



Freakinoldguy @ Fri May 08, 2015 4:08 am

I've been giving this topic some thought and I think I'm more pissed off at the Americans for repatriating their problem, the Canadian Supreme Court for making Omar a special case that entails special privileges that other Canadian criminals in foreign jails haven't received, his lawyer for claiming the moral high ground while salivating at the thought of (latest suit) 20 million dollars in blood money, the people who think his actions in Afghanistan were just a childish prank rather than murder, than I am at the murderous little deal breaker himself.

Hopefully he isn't going to win his appeal in a US court for the simple fact that he admitted to murdering the medic and conspiring with Al Qaeda and even if it was just to get a reduced sentence the US justice system doesn't normally renegotiate those deals, especially in favour of the criminal.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/the-trial ... r-1.870059

So, when you think about it he's actually breaking a deal he had with the US Gov't which would have capped his sentence to 8 years max, making the 40 year sentence he received irrelevant and I don't think they're going to take too kindly to some convicted murderer dictating how long he should serve especially after accepting a plea bargin.

There's still a chance that he could be sent back to the States to finish that 40 year sentence especially if his appeal goes south and they decided the original deal is off the table because he's the one who broke it.

This is a risky move by his lawyer that may just backfire but, then again if they win this lawsuit against the Canadian Gov't results be damned, they'll both be rich, one able to spend the windfall, one not. :P

   



2Cdo @ Fri May 08, 2015 6:01 am

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Better to only see in black and white than be completely blind like you.
.

It only looks like blindness to you because you put everything in black or white terms. Funny because all of these terrorists and extremists are black and white thinkers. To steal a line from Star Wars, only a Sith deals in absolutes.


When it comes to radical islam, there is no other way to look at it. Like I said earlier, he WILL find a way back to the jihadi movement and those who support their little pet will be left wondering why he didn't embrace them.

   



Praxius @ Fri May 08, 2015 8:17 am

Regardless of whatever he did or didn't do and regardless of his family's past, he won't be any sort of risk to anybody and in fact would probably be the smallest threat anybody would have to worry about in Canada or anywhere else for that matter.

Let's drop the repetitive emotional dribble from both sides for a moment and look at this logically.

No matter what he decides to do in the future, he won't be able to take a dump without the news & every Tom Dick and Harry knowing about it for the rest of his life.

You don't think he'll be noticed heading to an airport or booking a ticket, even if it's to head to Dildo Newfoundland to go sight seeing or whatever the hell one does in Dildo?

Everybody in Canada knows who he is and what he looks like. Even if he wanted to commit a crime or terrorist action, he wouldn't have much of a chance to do anything.

But for the benefit of the doubt, let's go for one of the worst case scenarios some bring up over and over again.... Let's say he does decide that he wants to go back to Pakistan or Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria or wherever. Let's say he does somehow make it to one of these places and magically joins up with the Taliban or Al'Q or ISIS.... Exactly what good is a half blind guy with little to no combat experience since he was 14 or 15 years old?

Ok, we'll go further and say that was indeed him in that picture way back, making IED's as a kid..... I'm sure even if it was him, he wasn't some master wiz bomb expert and it's not like these organizations don't have plenty of guys already experts in making bombs.

They have younger and more stupid people who are fitter and in better physical condition and have more training than to want to bring him onto the team.

But let's go further down the rabbit hole some more....

Let's say they do take him in after all of the above miraculously comes true. He would either end up as some half baked mascot as being the kid who killed an American soldier by sheer fluke and only be used for worse propaganda videos than what they have now.... Or they'd send him out to the frontlines to be a bullet sponge so they don't risk their more valued & experienced soldiers who still have vision in both of their eyes.

He either then becomes irrelevant, or he ends up being killed.... Either way, problem solved and we don't have to talk about him ever again.

... Or he becomes a decent person, gets a job, settles down and lives his own life.... Thus becoming irrelevant yet again and becomes someone you never hear about again except after a few years when people want to hear the story again or someone wants to make a movie.

The logical reality of the current situation is that he isn't a risk to anybody. Even if he was in the past, due to all of Canada and a good % of the world watching everything he does, he wouldn't get very far.

I've got more to worry about in my next bowel movement than I have in him being a threat.

   



andyt @ Fri May 08, 2015 8:24 am

No, no, he's a jihadi mastermind who will wreak his terrible carnage right here in Canada. We should all quake in our boots.

   



BeaverFever @ Fri May 08, 2015 10:13 am

$1:
When it comes to radical islam, there is no other way to look at it.

You mean, when it comes to the topic of radical Islam, anyone who doesn't agree with you has to be considered a terrorist sympathizer? Go back and read Martin's last post that started this topic. He basically states that those who don't share his opinion of how Khadr should be treated thinks "he did nothing wrong" by "killing those bad bad Americans"

   



martin14 @ Fri May 08, 2015 10:46 am

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
$1:
When it comes to radical islam, there is no other way to look at it.

You mean, when it comes to the topic of radical Islam, anyone who doesn't agree with you has to be considered a terrorist sympathizer?



Sympathizer ?


No.


You can also be:


An apologist.

A deflector, who immediately whines about Christians anytime anything Muslim comes up.

Quietly condone what the terrorists do.

A constitutional expert with Khadr, but never a peep made about anyone else in a foreign jail.

A fundraiser.

Willingly blind.

Blind through stupidity.


Or just plain stupid. :lol:

   



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