Omar Khadr to be freed on bail while awaiting appeal
Newsbot @ Thu May 07, 2015 9:34 am
Title: Omar Khadr to be freed on bail while awaiting appeal
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2015-05-07 09:31:49
Canadian
andyt @ Thu May 07, 2015 9:34 am
$1:
In court on Thursday, Alberta Court of Appeal Justice Myra Bielby said there was no clear evidence there would be irreparable harm if he were released.
Interaction with his family can only be made by telephone or video conference, and the conversations will have to be in English, and be supervised.
Any face-to-face visits with his family can only happen with prior written approval from a supervisor.
Interaction with his family can only be made by telephone or video conference, and the conversations will have to be in English, and be supervised.
Any face-to-face visits with his family can only happen with prior written approval from a supervisor.
They should find a way to keep those conditions in place when his sentence is over. I think bad influences on him are a much greater threat than him just acting on his own.
DrCaleb @ Thu May 07, 2015 9:51 am
andyt andyt:
$1:
In court on Thursday, Alberta Court of Appeal Justice Myra Bielby said there was no clear evidence there would be irreparable harm if he were released.
Interaction with his family can only be made by telephone or video conference, and the conversations will have to be in English, and be supervised.
Any face-to-face visits with his family can only happen with prior written approval from a supervisor.
Interaction with his family can only be made by telephone or video conference, and the conversations will have to be in English, and be supervised.
Any face-to-face visits with his family can only happen with prior written approval from a supervisor.
They should find a way to keep those conditions in place when his sentence is over. I think bad influences on him are a much greater threat than him just acting on his own.
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Once his sentence is over, you can't impose conditions on him. That's where the concept of 'rehabilitation' comes in. After his sentence is over, he's supposed to do these things on his own volition because he sees them as the right thing to do.
2Cdo @ Thu May 07, 2015 9:54 am
Sorry but the second he is able to he will run back to his fucked up family and their fucked up beliefs.
I won't be one bit surprised WHEN he finds his way back to the Middle East to continue his jihad. Hopefully, dying a slow fucking painful death. 
andyt @ Thu May 07, 2015 9:55 am
I think they have found ways to put a bond or something on some people. Although that may be in lieu of arrest and charges.
I've always argued for very long parole periods for people convicted of serious crimes. Yes, help them to rehabilitate, but watch them to make sure it took.
Of course if his appeal of his guilty verdict succeeds (seems unlikely) all this is irrelevant.
Thanos @ Thu May 07, 2015 10:01 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
andyt andyt:
$1:
In court on Thursday, Alberta Court of Appeal Justice Myra Bielby said there was no clear evidence there would be irreparable harm if he were released.
Interaction with his family can only be made by telephone or video conference, and the conversations will have to be in English, and be supervised.
Any face-to-face visits with his family can only happen with prior written approval from a supervisor.
Interaction with his family can only be made by telephone or video conference, and the conversations will have to be in English, and be supervised.
Any face-to-face visits with his family can only happen with prior written approval from a supervisor.
They should find a way to keep those conditions in place when his sentence is over. I think bad influences on him are a much greater threat than him just acting on his own.
Once his sentence is over, you can't impose conditions on him. That's where the concept of 'rehabilitation' comes in. After his sentence is over, he's supposed to do these things on his own volition because he sees them as the right thing to do.
No, conditions for bail or even release can last a lifetime. So for some gutter pedophile, or to make sure that Vincent Li is staying on his meds, so too for L'il Omar, the saddest boy in the whole wide world. Nothing unconstitutional about post-release requirements at all. The systemic failure will only come when the social workers get overwhelmed by their other cases and lose track of him, or some typo accidentally takes him off the watch list. That's when he'll disappear and then re-debut sometime afterwards by blowing up a bus or streetcar in Toronto.
DrCaleb @ Thu May 07, 2015 10:03 am
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Sorry but the second he is able to he will run back to his fucked up family and their fucked up beliefs.
I won't be one bit surprised WHEN he finds his way back to the Middle East to continue his jihad. Hopefully, dying a slow fucking painful death.
I won't be one bit surprised WHEN he finds his way back to the Middle East to continue his jihad. Hopefully, dying a slow fucking painful death.
I would be surprised. He's in the news a lot around here. He seems to have been a model prisoner in Guantanamo, and in the Edmonton Max. He got his High School diploma in prison. He's registered for College courses in the fall at a local Christian
college.He seems like he's trying to re-integrate into society after spending half his life in prison. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But I'll also be the first to 'get a rope' if he does go all Jihadi on us.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3062957
andyt @ Thu May 07, 2015 10:05 am
This isn't about bail, but what happens when his sentence expires. As Caleb has pointed out, you can't really impose condition on somebody that's served his time. That's what's wrong with the Reformacons wanting make getting parole harder - people are just dumped on the street after serving their sentence with no supervision at all.
But it seems to me I've heard of some people getting some sort of bond put on them. Maybe the pressure them into agreeing to it, otherwise they will hound them day and night while they are out.
Vince Li, if he's deemed cured, would be released without any conditions on him.
DrCaleb @ Thu May 07, 2015 10:12 am
Thanos Thanos:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
andyt andyt:
They should find a way to keep those conditions in place when his sentence is over. I think bad influences on him are a much greater threat than him just acting on his own.
Once his sentence is over, you can't impose conditions on him. That's where the concept of 'rehabilitation' comes in. After his sentence is over, he's supposed to do these things on his own volition because he sees them as the right thing to do.
No, conditions for bail or even release can last a lifetime. So for some gutter pedophile, or to make sure that Vincent Li is staying on his meds, so too for L'il Omar, the saddest boy in the whole wide world. Nothing unconstitutional about post-release requirements at all. The systemic failure will only come when the social workers get overwhelmed by their other cases and lose track of him, or some typo accidentally takes him off the watch list. That's when he'll disappear and then re-debut sometime afterwards by blowing up a bus or streetcar in Toronto.
I believe those are 'life' sentences that can have conditions of parole set. (And mental illness).
But Khdar's sentence is up in 2018, no matter what. After that, I'm pretty sure the court can't impose conditions on him because he won't be on parole.
2Cdo @ Thu May 07, 2015 10:17 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Sorry but the second he is able to he will run back to his fucked up family and their fucked up beliefs.
I won't be one bit surprised WHEN he finds his way back to the Middle East to continue his jihad. Hopefully, dying a slow fucking painful death.
I won't be one bit surprised WHEN he finds his way back to the Middle East to continue his jihad. Hopefully, dying a slow fucking painful death.
I would be surprised. He's in the news a lot around here. He seems to have been a model prisoner in Guantanamo, and in the Edmonton Max. He got his High School diploma in prison. He's registered for College courses in the fall at a local Christian
college.He seems like he's trying to re-integrate into society after spending half his life in prison. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But I'll also be the first to 'get a rope' if he does go all Jihadi on us.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3062957
Smoke and mirrors. Show them what they want to see, and when finally free go back to that what he is.
I'd bet on it I'm that confident.
martin14 @ Thu May 07, 2015 10:50 am
andyt andyt:
I've always argued for
a lot of things that are just bullshit.
Aren't you one of the bleeding hearts that likes to whine that he was a just a boy
and not a soldier and he did nothing wrong and those bad bad American bastards.
By that standard, he should just be let go, because he is just a poor boy,
and innocent.
ShepherdsDog @ Thu May 07, 2015 10:53 am
Should he become a full blown Jihadi Knight.....remember the name of the judge who set him free.
BRAH @ Thu May 07, 2015 11:03 am
His piece of shit Lawyer called Harper a Bigot, the Leftist Race Card don't leave home without it. 
Freakinoldguy @ Thu May 07, 2015 11:35 am
BRAH BRAH:
His piece of shit Lawyer called Harper a racist.
Part of his lawyers schtick to get his overly large share of the blood money Omar thinks he's entitled to.
"You see your Honour, my client is extremely deserving of that $60 millions dollars because, if the Prime Minister wasn't a racist he wouldn't have been incarcerated by the evil Americans at all".
This guy is living proof that most lawyers are ambulance chasing scum who'll do anything to make a buck.
Alta_redneck @ Thu May 07, 2015 4:28 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Sorry but the second he is able to he will run back to his fucked up family and their fucked up beliefs.
I won't be one bit surprised WHEN he finds his way back to the Middle East to continue his jihad. Hopefully, dying a slow fucking painful death.
I won't be one bit surprised WHEN he finds his way back to the Middle East to continue his jihad. Hopefully, dying a slow fucking painful death.
I would be surprised. He's in the news a lot around here. He seems to have been a model prisoner in Guantanamo, and in the Edmonton Max. He got his High School diploma in prison. He's registered for College courses in the fall at a local Christian
college.He seems like he's trying to re-integrate into society after spending half his life in prison. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But I'll also be the first to 'get a rope' if he does go all Jihadi on us.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3062957
He only stayed at the Max long enough to get accustomed to the weather in Alberta, he spent most of his time down here in the Bowden Pen with Canada's pedophiles.