PM Khan on Japanese Attack over US ships...WW2

Well I am going to have to call major bullshit on this one. Saying that religion has nothing to do with terrorism is laughable. Trying to bring religion into Japanese Kamikaze attacks in WW2 is laughable. Purposely crashing a military plane of one country into a military ship of another country that happens to be at war is not a terrorist act. Hijacking a civilian aircraft and purposely crashing it into a civilian population center where no act of war exist is an act of terrorism. Get it? Why would we bring the religions of Japan into the mix when we were mainly fighting Catholics in our wars with Italy and Germany? Its ridiculous.

Sorry but Khan crossed the usual line where he's making excuses for Islamic terrorism.

Yes, the Japanese had two religions: Shinto and Buddhism but neither religion was ever a factor in their decision to attack the USA. I've read shitloads of Japanese military books and papers on the attack and religion was NEVER mentioned.

And as Martin correctly points out the Japanese religion persisted after WW2 but there were no more attacks after that...which would demonstrate that Khan is profoundly wrong.

I forget the name of the guy but there was this Muslim academic who came out of American universities disillusioned, returned to the middle East and wrote books that are generally considered the inspiration for modern Islamic terrorism. He was big with Bin laden and Al Zawahiri.

But that was more just a respark. The Islamic inspiration for terror goes back a long time before that. Left column below.

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss what the Japanese would or wouldn't do while they were collectively insane with their combination of militarism and blind worship of their god-emperor. If they thought it would have helped them win against the savage barbarians (which is they considered everyone who wasn't Japanese) they would have absolutely engaged in the same tactics that Al Qaeda and ISIS have used, both against military targets and civilians. The Japanese deliberately committed atrocities in China against civilians that are identical to what happened in Iraq and Syria by ISIS. And, if they'd had long-range aircraft capable of reaching the US from (say) the northern Japanese islands they definitely would have rammed them into office buildings the same way it happened on Sept 11, 2001. If they believed that terrorizing a civilian population in such a way would result in an enemy capitulating to them they wouldn't have hesitated to do it.

Khan's full of shit of course though. Religion is at the heart of all evil, and always will be. Only true believers, be they soldiers doing it for Hitler or Hirohito or militants doing it for Allah, are capable of such things. Mass psychosis using religion as it's justification is the most effective way of ensuring the desired atrocities will happen.

Khan should STFU and worry about his country’s problems with Islamic Extremists who are one coup away from getting their hands on Nuclear Weapons, it’s what kept Obama up at night.

Well I am going to have to call major bullshit on this one. Saying that religion has nothing to do with terrorism is laughable. Trying to bring religion into Japanese Kamikaze attacks in WW2 is laughable. Purposely crashing a military plane of one country into a military ship of another country that happens to be at war is not a terrorist act. Hijacking a civilian aircraft and purposely crashing it into a civilian population center where no act of war exist is an act of terrorism. Get it? Why would we bring the religions of Japan into the mix when we were mainly fighting Catholics in our wars with Italy and Germany? Its ridiculous.

I love how he states that it is politics and not religion that is responsible for terrorism. Ok lets talk about politics than. Why is it that India has more Muslims living in its borders than Pakistan, yet India is denied a seat at the OIC? India has the second highest Muslim population in the world (soon to be number one) yet Pakistan keeps vetoing them membership in the OIC. Sounds like some major politics to me. Sounds like some major bullshit to me.

And since the kamikazee attacks stopped when the war ended, what they are really saying
is that Islam is actually continuing the war against the West, is at war with the West,
and will not stop the war with the West.

Oh and Islam is a bunch of fucking cowards as well, because they are too afraid
to attack military targets.

Fine speaker that Khan.. :lol:

Sorry but Khan crossed the usual line where he's making excuses for Islamic terrorism.

Yes, the Japanese had two religions: Shinto and Buddhism but neither religion was ever a factor in their decision to attack the USA. I've read shitloads of Japanese military books and papers on the attack and religion was NEVER mentioned.

And as Martin correctly points out the Japanese religion persisted after WW2 but there were no more attacks after that...which would demonstrate that Khan is profoundly wrong.

He also mentioned about tamil tigers suicide attack in Sri Lanka? way before 9/11...Why Hinduism was not blamed for it?

If Muslims are asked to kill unbelievers then why Canadian Muslims have not yet started slaying people in Canada? I mean what Canadian Muslims are waiting for? End of Ramadan?

December 14, 1999 - Ahmed Ressam, known as the Millennium Bomber, was arrested upon entering the United States by a ferry from Victoria, British Columbia. He was smuggling explosives in his car from Canada as part of a plot to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) on New Year's Eve 1999, as part of the foiled 2000 millennium attack plots.

2006 - In the 2006 Ontario terrorism plot, Canadian counter-terrorism forces arrested 18 terrorists (dubbed the "Toronto 18") inspired by al-Qaeda. They were accused of planning to detonate truck bombs, to open fire in a crowded area, and to storm the Canadian Broadcasting Centre, the Canadian Parliament building, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) headquarters, and the parliamentary Peace Tower, to take hostages and to behead the Prime Minister and other leaders.

August 2010 - Misbahuddin Ahmed of Ottawa was arrested (later convicted in July 2014) of knowingly facilitating a terrorist activity and participation in the activities of a terrorist group.[10][11]

2013 - Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser of Montreal and Toronto, respectively, charged as part of an alleged Al Qaeda plot to derail a New York to Toronto train on the Canadian side of the border. Alleged plot was not imminent.[citation needed] Canadian Muslims helped to foil the alleged plot.[12] The suspects said they were arrested based on their appearance.[13][14]

October 20, 2014 – On October 20, 2014, two Canadian Forces members were hit by Martin Couture-Rouleau, a recent Muslim convert in what is known as the 2014 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu ramming attack. Warrant officer Patrice Vincent died of his injuries. Couture-Rouleau was eventually gunned down and killed.[15]

October 22, 2014 - Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a convert to Islam, fatally shot Corporal Nathan Cirillo, a Canadian soldier on ceremonial sentry duty at the Canadian National War Memorial in Ottawa, and then forced his way into Canada's parliament building, where he had a shootout with parliament security personnel. He was shot 31 times and died at the scene. Zehaf-Bibeau made a video prior to the attack in which he expressed his motives as being related "to Canada's foreign policy and in respect of his religious beliefs."[16][17]

August 10, 2016 - Aaron Driver was killed in Strathroy, Ontario, in a confrontation with police after detonating an explosive in the back seat of a taxi. The confrontation followed a tip from the FBI that Driver had made a "martyrdom video" and was planning an attack on an urban area.[18]

September 30, 2017 - 30-year-old Abdulahi Sharif drives into Edmonton police constable Mike Chernyk then stabs him near Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton, Alberta, fleeing and later hitting four pedestrians with a rental truck during a police pursuit in the 2017 Edmonton attack.[19][20] Police are investigating the incident as an act of terrorism and confirmed the presence of an ISIS flag in the van that struck the police officer.[21][22] Sharif was confirmed by RCMP assistant commissioner Marlin Degrand as a Somali national known to the RCMP and Edmonton police as having past displayed signs of extremism.[23]

What is your opinion on Christian Evangelists ? They are quite in power in your neighborhood.

BRAH BRAH:

Khan should STFU and worry about his country’s problems with Islamic Extremists who are one coup away from getting their hands on Nuclear Weapons, it’s what kept Obama up at night.

You have wrote that comment "n" number of times....Don't you have anything else to say? except bullshit.

Don't worry, if we will loose our nukes, we will make sure everyone else loses theirs as well.

Fighter Fighter:

What is your opinion on Christian Evangelists ? They are quite in power in your neighborhood.

BRAH BRAH:

Khan should STFU and worry about his country’s problems with Islamic Extremists who are one coup away from getting their hands on Nuclear Weapons, it’s what kept Obama up at night.

You have wrote that comment "n" number of times....Don't you have anything else to say? except bullshit.

Don't worry, if we will loose our nukes, we will make sure everyone else loses theirs as well.

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Triggered? It's not "Bullshit" it's the truth of how Pakistan is the most dangerous country in the World.

Just sitting here [popcorn]

Got a feeling this is going to get very interesting or the thread dies off fast.

Fighter Fighter:

If Muslims are asked to kill unbelievers then why Canadian Muslims have not yet started slaying people in Canada? I mean what Canadian Muslims are waiting for? End of Ramadan?

They have not been waiting.

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December 14, 1999 - Ahmed Ressam, known as the Millennium Bomber, was arrested upon entering the United States by a ferry from Victoria, British Columbia. He was smuggling explosives in his car from Canada as part of a plot to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) on New Year's Eve 1999, as part of the foiled 2000 millennium attack plots.

2006 - In the 2006 Ontario terrorism plot, Canadian counter-terrorism forces arrested 18 terrorists (dubbed the "Toronto 18") inspired by al-Qaeda. They were accused of planning to detonate truck bombs, to open fire in a crowded area, and to storm the Canadian Broadcasting Centre, the Canadian Parliament building, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) headquarters, and the parliamentary Peace Tower, to take hostages and to behead the Prime Minister and other leaders.

August 2010 - Misbahuddin Ahmed of Ottawa was arrested (later convicted in July 2014) of knowingly facilitating a terrorist activity and participation in the activities of a terrorist group.[10][11]

2013 - Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser of Montreal and Toronto, respectively, charged as part of an alleged Al Qaeda plot to derail a New York to Toronto train on the Canadian side of the border. Alleged plot was not imminent.[citation needed] Canadian Muslims helped to foil the alleged plot.[12] The suspects said they were arrested based on their appearance.[13][14]

October 20, 2014 – On October 20, 2014, two Canadian Forces members were hit by Martin Couture-Rouleau, a recent Muslim convert in what is known as the 2014 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu ramming attack. Warrant officer Patrice Vincent died of his injuries. Couture-Rouleau was eventually gunned down and killed.[15]

October 22, 2014 - Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a convert to Islam, fatally shot Corporal Nathan Cirillo, a Canadian soldier on ceremonial sentry duty at the Canadian National War Memorial in Ottawa, and then forced his way into Canada's parliament building, where he had a shootout with parliament security personnel. He was shot 31 times and died at the scene. Zehaf-Bibeau made a video prior to the attack in which he expressed his motives as being related "to Canada's foreign policy and in respect of his religious beliefs."[16][17]

August 10, 2016 - Aaron Driver was killed in Strathroy, Ontario, in a confrontation with police after detonating an explosive in the back seat of a taxi. The confrontation followed a tip from the FBI that Driver had made a "martyrdom video" and was planning an attack on an urban area.[18]

September 30, 2017 - 30-year-old Abdulahi Sharif drives into Edmonton police constable Mike Chernyk then stabs him near Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton, Alberta, fleeing and later hitting four pedestrians with a rental truck during a police pursuit in the 2017 Edmonton attack.[19][20] Police are investigating the incident as an act of terrorism and confirmed the presence of an ISIS flag in the van that struck the police officer.[21][22] Sharif was confirmed by RCMP assistant commissioner Marlin Degrand as a Somali national known to the RCMP and Edmonton police as having past displayed signs of extremism.[23]

Fighter Fighter:

He also mentioned about tamil tigers suicide attack in Sri Lanka? way before 9/11...Why Hinduism was not blamed for it?

Because the Tigers' attacks were not motivated by religion. Infact I believe they were largely secular, their religious belief didn't factor into what they were doing. It was a political thing. Most Islamic terrorism is done in the name of Islam. So you can't compare them at all really, and it's laughably stupid to try and do so.

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Japan used suicide tactics during wartime, and as soon as they surrendered the suicide attacks stopped. Martin is pointing out that by using the comparison to Islamic terrorists, Khan unwittingly said that these terrorists are at war with western countries.