Riot breaks out in Montreal north where 18-year-old was shot
ShepherdsDog @ Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:01 pm
Thanks...I'll be waiting for your comment. liberal and burqa would be easier though.
CommanderSock @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:41 am
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Hello.....Toronto is becoming the crime capital of north america.. there are random and not so random shootings almost daily.. there are sub cultural pockets of immigrants who collect in certain areas and force people to move.. immigrants come here and blame Canada for not handing them la vie en rose on a silver platter.. most know they can collect welfare and are too fucking lazy to work.. its true. and its obvious in Montreal.. there are certain immigrant groups who have a chip on their shoulder and prefer to steal a living than earn one.. You have to applaud Quebecois (e) for standing up to this crap..more provinces should be so proactive. And I know people living in Scarborough who are afraid to go for groceries on a Friday night.. Toronto is known as Toronto the terrible by some folks.
Untrue. Prove to me using statistics that Toronto's is becoming a crime capital. Yes, there are certain pockets of the city that higher than average crime per capita, but nowhere near the sprawling ghettos of US cities, or god forbid to even be compared with Mexican ones. Show me some statistics proving that Toronto tops these cities. Otherwise it's just rhetoric. I mentioned that cities with predominantly non visible minorities have a higher crime rate per capita that those such as Van/Mtl and Toronto.
EyeBrock @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:27 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
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Well its true of Toronto also.. I have read shit about Winnipeg, Calgary and Vancouver.. the cultural differences are ruining the country.. and yes we should be more careful who we let in.. I have said it over and over..its time to really take a hard look at immigration. In downtown Montreal you actually get shoved off the sidewalk and if you look sideways you are accused of racism and get the crap beat out of you.. its time we got tough with this shit..
FFS, Toronto's population is 49% foreign born, and a higher number is non white. Toronto is not a violent city. No race riots etc. Yes some immigrants Canada has let in have been questionable, but like pointed out by some already on this forum, Quebec has it's own immigration program and in a way, have themselves to blame. If they no longer wanted Algerians, Morocans, Haitians, and other former french colonists, they could look outside the sphere of Francophones.
I agree that some immigrant groups have been assholes. But many of these are isolated cases, with so many of the of the criminals actually raised in Canada. Again, cities with the highest immigration rates tend to have lower crime per capita than ethnically WASP/Catholic/White/Native cities.
In a way, Canadian media concentrates more on cases where the crimes are perpetrated by immigrants, less when the immigrants are the victims, and highest when the victim is of European origin and the perpetrator of a crime is an immigrant, or Canadian with parents from a foreign non European country. This creates a false perception that mainly immigrants commit crimes. And hence, we are back on the forum, bitching, going in circles.
Do you even live in or near Toronto? Check out the newspapers and TV for everynights edition of Jamaicans in Toronto shooting each other and anybody nearby.
We could be more certain on data if it wasn't for the fact that police were stopped from taking data on offender's race and country of origin. Seems the social engineers don't dig stats that reflect badly on immigrants.
CommanderSock @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:12 am
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Do you even live in or near Toronto? Check out the newspapers and TV for everynights edition of Jamaicans in Toronto shooting each other and anybody nearby.
We could be more certain on data if it wasn't for the fact that police were stopped from taking data on offender's race and country of origin. Seems the social engineers don't dig stats that reflect badly on immigrants.
On weekdays I live in a condo on Lakeshore. I'm sorry, but I just don't see this super violent immigrant city that all you fear mongerers are talking about. Even scarbrough, when I drive through doesn't seem bad at all. Can't compare it with the ghettos of Detriot, LA or New York.
martin14 @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:22 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
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Do you even live in or near Toronto? Check out the newspapers and TV for everynights edition of Jamaicans in Toronto shooting each other and anybody nearby.
We could be more certain on data if it wasn't for the fact that police were stopped from taking data on offender's race and country of origin. Seems the social engineers don't dig stats that reflect badly on immigrants.
On weekdays I live in a condo on Lakeshore. I'm sorry, but I just don't see this super violent immigrant city that all you fear mongerers are talking about. Even scarbrough, when I drive through doesn't seem bad at all. Can't compare it with the ghettos of Detriot, LA or New York.
I have never understood why people are so busy trying to turn Toronto
or compare it to a large US city. We do live in Canada, after all.
CommanderSock @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:57 am
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I have never understood why people are so busy trying to turn Toronto
or compare it to a large US city. We do live in Canada, after all.
Some previously mentioned that Toronto is becoming crime capital of North America. I'm simply rebutting.
martin14 @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:25 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
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I have never understood why people are so busy trying to turn Toronto
or compare it to a large US city. We do live in Canada, after all.
Some previously mentioned that Toronto is becoming crime capital of North America. I'm simply rebutting.
by comparing it to a US city ?.. not much of a rebuttal.
i lived on Jane and Finch for a while in the mid 80's,
it was freaking dangerous back then.. baseball bat to go buy cigs;
i imagine its gotten much worse.
CommanderSock @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:09 am
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by comparing it to a US city ?.. not much of a rebuttal.
i lived on Jane and Finch for a while in the mid 80's,
it was freaking dangerous back then.. baseball bat to go buy cigs;
i imagine its gotten much worse.
Toronto has a lower crime/murder rate than Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver. If you need a baseball bat to buy cigs in Toronto/Jane Finch, I bloody wonder what the hell you need to protect yourself with when buying cigs in the former mentioned cities.