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Are you drunk again? Or you just have trouble reading?Perhaps I should have bolded it like I just did so that you would understand what my response was directed at.

   

   

   

We might as well take away all guns from the police too. And tasers, and pepper spray. Its Canada, there's nothing that can go wrong.

Listen to yourself. I'm not advocating going around giving out free guns, but if somebody wants a gun for protection, for hunting. Let them. Why should we ban things just because you think there's no use for them?

Ban things because its un-Canadian or too American? Let's ban flags since flag waving is held to be too American, ooh and ban hamburgers and apple pie and baseball.



YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT! You are bitching about totalitarian and such, when Canada is becoming even more fascist by banning "Hate" and "Offensive" books.

I'm laughing at Canada. Sure the Patriot Act is a mess, but guess what? The Patriot Act isn't rounding up liberals and trying them for anti-conservative Speech. You write the 21st Century version of the Communist Manifesto, you get put into a Kangaroo Court. Shall I continue? No. Canada is becoming what you accuse America of being. You're barely able to see it.



But banning speech is a slippery slope that goes straight to dictatorship.



That's a seperate issue. Violating a property like that is a crime. But if that same Neo Nazi wanted to print a book full of shit. Let him. He's not harming anybody but himself.



Psychos can get their hands on anything. Knives, cars, bats, saws, axes, etc etc etc. Crime doesn't stop when you ban something. Taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens is wrong.

   

   

Maybe this will change the focus of the gun debate in America. Maybe the USA can get off of the two horse track of guns and/or abortion rights and start to move on to more productive topics of discussion?

   

Oh yeah, stabbing someone and owning a handgun are really the same thing. You're an idiot.

It is a threat. Just like there is the threat of the world coming to an end because of global warming.
And how do you propose to be free if you can't provide that freedom for yourself?

Real mature, asswipe.

So what? You're slow.

Duh.


How about 15 outright for criminal act with the use of a firearm. If you murder someone, you're in jail for at least 20 years.

   

A cop may not be the same as a citizen, but that's exactly why we need them. Read 1984 when you get the time.
Because it's what this country was founded on. If people thought like you 350 years ago, then we would still have slavery and mass racism. Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak what you believe or think. You take that away from someone, or put them in jail for it, you are no better than Hitler putting Jews into camps for following a certain religion.

Not necessarily anti-liberal, but anti-things liberals like, or even making jokes about. Look at the comedian who is in shit for making fun of two lesbians for being douchebags. That's a complete joke.
By what you are saying about taking free speech away, the Communist Manifesto was really hate speech aimed at the wealthy, or Bourgeoisie. So by what you are saying, it should be illegal.

..... Really.... Wow..... Love to see what you mean by this.

Let people hate? You are going to try and control what they think too? Again 1984 much? Fuck, you claim America is fascist, yet you are wanting to do what America is trying to fucking stop. If they want to put a book on the shelves that's racist, or bigoted, so be it.


That doesn't do as much as thought. Generally speaking criminals don't believe they will be caught, why commit the crime if you will be caught?

   

Americans repress each other like Animals. Whites don't like blacks, Blacks dont like whites, Mexicans dont like anyone, Chinese live in their own world, the Arabs all went to detroit and do their own thing and hire their own people. It's a result of too many Hwankers living in the USA. Too much backwards ass mentalities. Backwards thinkers. Repressers and repressed.

These morons (gangsters, etc) get their guns from the US anyhow. We shouldn't fight drugs if they dont want to fight guns smuggling. I say tough shit.

And for those that keep yapping about rights. Shut the fuck up. Especially regarding your (USA) government can listen to your phone conversations without a warrant. They can lock people up in Cuba for years without fair representation? RIGHTS????? RIGHTS????!!!!!!

HAHAHAAAA Please......

   

sounds like Toronto to me, or Vancouver, Montreal etc. etc.

   

While I cannot speak for the other cities Toronto is not too bad. The biggest bigots are usually those who bring their bullshit with them from their own countries. Doesn't matter what hue they are. Most Torontonians in their 20s went to mixed schools, public or private, therefore they are not that ignorant of other races and cultures. Inter-racial marriages are a norm here. That was not what I observed while on visiting some US cities in the East, Like New York, Detroit and Boston. Self segregation is the norm. I don't recall seeing one mixed race couple walking the streets in Boston for example, and that was a shock to me.

   

Wheres your proof that Canadian Criminals have easy access to fire-arms? Also the ones that do get them from America, from Americans who are benefiting off your rights who are just doing it to make a quick buck. So your rights are giving any Canadian with good connections to American Illegal Weapon dealers to privledge to obtain a weapon. Whats our solution for that? Should we just say the hell with it and adopt the American way of life and just give every single Canadian a fire-arm? or should we just prevent the trafficing of guns into Canada?

Also if you actually know anything about Governments, there power completly relies on the citizens that it governs. Because without citizens, there is no country, and with no country there is no government. Which is why it is every politicians wet dream to have the power to silence citizens, and stop them from protesting and rioting against there governments.

Canadians can depend a privledge if they wanted it, and if they want a privledge that there government provoked. Its called protesting.

Also you talking about Canadians having no right is laughable coming from a American who's government is constantly taking away your rights. Your government can take away any of your rights the same way a Canadian government can take away Canadians. You think just because you have guns, that your government is afraid of you? Owning a gun does not make you a hero of freedom that is protecting your rights. That is only a American fantasy.

The true power of a citizen, is the citizen itself. Not the gun the citizen owns.

As for your rights to bear arms, you are right. It is a right, but the point you are missing here is that while it gives you the right to bear arms. It also gives the criminals the rights to bear arms as well. Making the reason you want the right, to defend yourself from the very right that you rely on to defend yourself.

   

You know what commanderkai? Somehow I just don't see a criminal robbing a bank with a knife, or a base-ball bat. A fire-arm is a very dangerous weapon that can kill multiple people with range. There is a reason why its the only choice criminals use.

Also when a cop is chasing down some psycho-path due to his criminal activities. Think of all the less cop casualties there will be when cops don't need to worry about some guy pulling out his fire-arm. Which with this 'right'. I would garantee that the guy would be carrying one.

Guns are made for one purpose, and that is for killing. I refuse to believe that giving everybody a gun should be a right, that's no different than giving everybody a right to there own cruise missles, or nuke. It's basicly a right to kill somebody.

   

I remember reading in The Western Sportsman, a hunting and fishing mag. for western Canada where some dude argued that you could kill someone with a frozen gopher, therefore we should not restrict the ownership of handguns as it was obvious to him that frozen gophers were just as dangerous as handguns.

   

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