Where were you that Sept day?
Gunnair @ Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:52 pm
Hey oh!
GreenTiger @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:29 am
I was work like a lot of other people. There were some large TV monitors showing what was going on. I remember the fear for two people who I knew very well who worked there. They both were killed.
Jabberwalker @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:38 am
Goober911 Goober911:
What surprised me is how the US was stunned by this. Attacks had take place in Europe for years. There was an earlier attempt, around 92 or so to cause a building collapse from a vehicle bomb in the underground garage. And that was in NY.
Nothing like this had ever occurred before ... the evil ingenuity of turning airliners full of innocents into guided fuel/air bombs. That sure shocked me. "Satanic" is how I remember that.
Goober911 @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:20 pm
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Goober911 Goober911:
What surprised me is how the US was stunned by this. Attacks had take place in Europe for years. There was an earlier attempt, around 92 or so to cause a building collapse from a vehicle bomb in the underground garage. And that was in NY.
Nothing like this had ever occurred before ... the evil ingenuity of turning airliners full of innocents into guided fuel/air bombs. That sure shocked me. "Satanic" is how I remember that.
I agree on that. But with terror attacks at embassies, a US warship and elsewhere, do you think Western Intelligence dropped the ball?
We know airlines are a pipeline for drugs and other contraband, they could easily have planted bombs in air cargo.
jj2424 @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:15 pm
Winnipegger Winnipegger:
Well, this might sound strange. From the Inauguration of George W. in January 2001 through the winter, the discussion was about missile defence. I thought it was a waste of money. Reports said tests demonstrated the system worked just 1 time in 3, the other times it just missed. And it cost $80 billion for 10 missiles in Alaska. So I sat down in Tim Horton's with a friend to discuss this. My point was Russia had about 8,000 warheads, China had 12, so the only opponent this would stop was North Korea. Is anything from North Korea credible? Is it worth $80 billion. A human mission to Mars would cost less. My next question was what threats actually faced the US? I pointed out terrorists. Starting with the suicide bombing in Beirut, then US embassies, then the USS Cole. The US military and the terrorists were escalating. If the terrorists seriously expected to achieve their goals by force, then they would have to attack US soil. The terrorists had attempted a truck bombing in the garage of the World Trade Center. That told us what their target was. So I suggested they would try again. We brain-stormed what the terrorists would do, I could go through the whole sequence, but in March of 2001, sitting in Tim Horton's, we predicted that terrorist organization (I didn't know the name at the time, but it was Al Qaeda) would use box cutter knives to hijack a 757, and fly it into one of the twin towers of the World Trade Center. My friend said this attack would occur during business hours in September 2001, when all the kids were back in school and parents were back at work. Terrorists want to maximize casualties, so they would want the maximum number of people in that building. I was incredulous, that was too soon. But my friend said then. How prescient is that?
I forgot all about that. So when a friend phoned me the morning of September 11, I said it couldn't be! Not what my other friend and I had predicted back in March. No. It can't. This isn't fantasy, this is reality. No. Then I turned on the TV. Uhhhh. When did I fall into the Twilight Zone?
I forgot all about that. So when a friend phoned me the morning of September 11, I said it couldn't be! Not what my other friend and I had predicted back in March. No. It can't. This isn't fantasy, this is reality. No. Then I turned on the TV. Uhhhh. When did I fall into the Twilight Zone?
Put down the bong.
Winnipegger @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:41 pm
jj2424 jj2424:
Put down the bong.My point is that my friend and I did predict 9/11. A lot of people predicted 9/11. I saw a PBS documentary titled "The Man Who Knew" about an FBI researcher who also concluded that Al Qaeda would try again. He was in direct communication with Condoleezza Rice. He pushed it vehemently, and lost his job over it. He got a security job with the World Trade Center. Condoleezza Rice appeared in that PBS documentary, she said she received a text message from him indicating he was in the south tower just before it collapsed.
So George W. said no one could have known?
Jabberwalker @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:45 pm
My point is that my friend and I did predict 9/11.
Does Homeland Defence know about you "Winnipegger"
... or should I call you "Mohammed"
2Cdo @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:06 pm
Winnipegger Winnipegger:
My point is that my friend and I did predict 9/11.?
Big pile of hind-sight bullshit.
Winnipegger @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:19 pm
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Does Homeland Defence know about you "Winnipegger"
... or should I call you "Mohammed"
... or should I call you "Mohammed"
I was worried that the wrong people may have read a post on the internet. So I created a new profile on the CBC website, and posted a warning. If I can predict what these people do, then could I give a warning? I pointed out the terrorists and US military were escalating. But this! What could possibly be more than 9/11? After 9/11, the US military invaded Afghanistan. And they should. Canada participated. So after the massive attack of 9/11, the US military escalated with an even more massive attack. Could they escalate again? That's the pattern. The only thing I could think of was the terrorists would raid a US nuclear power station, and deliberately cause an accident as bad as Chernobyl. The next day the news said authorities were increasing security around nuclear power stations. Ok. So they read my post, just a single post on the CBC website news article, and the authorities responded. Good. That's what I wanted. Prevent a problem. But I never used that profile again.
In that post I pointed out the escalation, and asked the question "What's next?" A couple months later the news said a letter with anthrax was delivered to a US Congressman. News said that letter included the words "This is next." Ack! No! The wrong people are reading what I post. So I didn't post anything at all on any website for a year.
Winnipegger @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:23 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Big pile of hind-sight bullshit.
Yea, I knew you'd say that. That's why I emphasized my incredulity when it happened. "Incredulity", but word. Too big? I'm sure you can predict important stuff too, if you try. Those of you who've done guard duty probably have.
2Cdo @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:38 pm
Winnipegger Winnipegger:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Big pile of hind-sight bullshit.
Yea, I knew you'd say that. That's why I emphasized my incredulity when it happened. "Incredulity", but word. Too big? I'm sure you can predict important stuff too, if you try. Those of you who've done guard duty probably have.
More bullshit from the self-congratulating blow-hard.
Winnipegger @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:41 pm
Why do you do that?
Gunnair @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:08 pm
Winnipegger Winnipegger:
Why do you do that?
Sometimes people feel the need to say rain is wet.
Winnipegger @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:34 pm
So if you didn't think of it first, then no one else could have?
martin14 @ Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:35 pm
Winnipegger Winnipegger:
So if you didn't think of it first, then no one else could have?
First ?
Islamic terrorists were hijacking planes in the 70's.
Intefada gave us the suicide bomber.
Not a big step up to combine the two.