CANADIAN TROOPS OUT OF AFGHANISTAN

....but then again one must assume that there is a reasonable ability for comprehension. Perhaps there is not.

Hey Mr. Reality,

The Talibans are in Pakistan, not in Afghanistan. The USA are making a nuclear deal with India and Pakistan... for what we know, the Talibans might actually be paid by the USA to keep this part of the world unstable so that their Military/Weapon/oil/etc friends can make tons of money on the death on women and children (well over 100,000 so far, which is way over those 3000 killed in 9-11 or those killed by the sugar coporation that benifit from us going fat and sick).

Who said that we should get out... well, I will say it... The Canadian Army should get out, but our solidiers should be there with a big UN on their shirts and a blue helmet on their heads for a peacekeeping mission. For our army to be there means that we are occupying another country. This is forbbiden and illegal by the convensions signed after WWII. So, the Canadian Army should be in Canada ready to defend our country, ready to act in disasters, and defend our borders. This is the role of an army. CANADA IS NOT AT WAR, WE WERE NOT ATTACKED AND THIS WAR IS ILLEGAL. It is the ultimate weapon of the corporations... if they control the governments surely they control the armies.

To suggest that the presence of Canadian, or any other troops in Afg. will prevent one single suicide bombing attack anywhere on Earth is an ideology brainwashed pipe dream.

For all practical purposes there are no foreign troops in Afg. as what they occupy now is probably less than 5% of the country's area, which is mostly inaccessible to motorized troops and infantry doesn't have a hope in hell to penetrate, or occupy any of it.

There will be some troops occupying a few cities and guarding the pipeline construction, which will also be regularly blown up when completed, but the rest is a lost cause from the military, political and even moral points.

Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

When you speak from reality, especially the one you have experienced Ed, these "I know the scariest reality better than anyone else", a sound much like a "flatline" makes goes off between their ears.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

MGP,
Quote:"And so, keeping that in mind, do you honestly believe that the Taliban and Al Qaeda will not immediately return to their previous activities. With even more viciousness and vigour, and even more emboldened in their cause by the inconvenience of being forced into caves for the last 3 years? Even more angered by having to use borrowed computers to post videos of their hostages, prior to their slaughter, on the Internet?"

So what you are saying is that when you go into other peoples countries and bomb and kill them they get pissed off and will retaliate in kind, only in our country? If so then you have just stated the reason I do not agree with our troops being in Afghanistan or in any other country that did not attack Canada nor the USA.

MGP Quote:
"Make no mistake, those car bombs are one terrorists plane ride from Afghanistan to Canada away."

Your "THEM" could be your neighbour. If you think terrorists are only in Afghanistan you should be far more afraid than you are. Terrorists could be in your backyard and they do not have to come from some Arab country they could have escaped from a mental hospital or should be in one. Terroirists are criminals and should be treated as such. Terrorists are in the minority so stay sane for the sake of the majority would ya?

I hope that sharp buzzing sound between your ears didn't blind you as well.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

it's always the holier than thou,that know everything,there is to know about everything.i wish i were granted that immense knowledge and then again ,it must be a burden to be so intelligent,that even mensa looks like a bunch of mental midgets.

we saw the BULLSHIT that the RUSSIANS went through during their occupation,while the AMERIKANS supplied the AFGHANIs with weaponry...WHO DO YOU THINK IS SUPPLYING THEM NOW ?

a destabilized area in the middle east will always be a military quest for one country or another so that they can bleed resources from their enemies.

do not look for stability in areas that have been at war since the dawn of time.

and as an aside...flouride,chlorine are both poisons in quantities that are in your water,that is one reason CANCER is so prevalent in our white cultures...chlorine/bleach is especially toxic straight up,try it sometime...it will enlighten you some more and build that vast reservoir of knowledge you so proudly display.

and didn't you know...tinfoil hats are so passe'...you are so...yesterday !

Hey
I am a soldier and very proud of it serving for over 25 yrs. I have been to Cyprus, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Afganistan. We are not peace keepers. WE ARE SOLDIERS. Trained to fight a war, I wish people would stat to understand only soldiers can keep the peace. Canadians have gotten the wrong view of what a Military is for, and what we do.
Growup Canada.

"The Talibans might actually be paid by the USA to keep this part of the world unstable"

.....???!!...Oh Good Lord...did Elvis tell you that?

"We were not attacked and this war is illegal"

Well now, by that logic the United States, Canada, England and all the other Allied Powers had no business attacking Germany when they invaded Poland in 1939. After all Germany didn't attack us or any of those other countries at that point, right? Hell, that was between Germany and Poland. What business did we have getting involved in their fight huh? And therefore Canadian and US participation in the military defeat and occupation of Germany was also illegal, since we were never directly attacked by them, correct?

Or, you know, perhaps Adolph Hitler was part of a massive US government conspiracy to destabilize Europe, and was actually on the payroll of the US mega-corporations, and was simply following his top-secret orders to increase overall value for shareholders in the military industrial complex. And all the people who knew about this massive conspiracy were offered up to the aliens for kidnapping so they could conveniently just "disappear". Hey...I think I'm getting the hang of this!

"those killed by the sugar coporation that benifit from us going fat and sick."

.....um....uh....words simply fail.....did I say tin-foil hats?....I meant straight jackets.

What I'm saying is that when you hijack planes and fly them into buildings and kill thousands of people, people get pissed off and retaliate.

There seems to be a common thread running through a fair bit of this site when it comes to discussing Afghanistan. People seem to believe that we all just woke up one day and said "Hey, there's no hockey game on tonight. Let's invade Afghanistan!"

The government of Afghanistan, the Taliban, was sheltering and supporting Al Qaeda, the architects and perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. Remember 9/11? Those planes flying into the buildings and killing thousands of people? The Taliban were told to give up Osama Bin Laden and they refused. Now, what should the proper response to the Taliban have been? A strongly worded letter sent postage due??

I already addressed the inaneness of the "they didn't attack us so we shouldn't be there" logic in another reply.

I'll be sure and check my backyard for terrorists.

....and don't forget about all those micro-waves and x-rays transmitting invisibly through the atmosphere sending you subliminal messages that permeate into your sub-conscious and make you brush your teeth with the poison flouride.

Or, you know, maybe the cancer causing flouride is part of a massive government conspiracy to enrich the medical establishment and keep drug stores open longer hours. Good God Mulder, this is bigger than you can imagine!

MGP Quote:
"What I'm saying is that when you hijack planes and fly them into buildings and kill thousands of people, people get pissed off and retaliate."

I don't think that is what you said the first time and even if that is what you are saying now, pissed off people retaliating does not make anyone safer. If there was going to be a response it should have been leveled at finding out who actually did the act and the criminals arrested and tried, no matter how long that took. Now we have nothing but a dark dark dark future. I hope you've lived a long, happy life because what is ahead of you if long certainly is not going to be carefree and happy.

Your quote:
"There seems to be a common thread running through a fair bit of this site when it comes to discussing Afghanistan. People seem to believe that we all just woke up one day and said "Hey, there's no hockey game on tonight. Let's invade Afghanistan!"

I would have to say in all seriousness that there was no one that had that awakening? That is just a very immature and irresponsible statement.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

You are mixing time and issues. Germany attacked a lot of different countries at the time. One of those country was England. At that time Canada was under the Crown's control. Canada was a colony of England and had to take send our troops, no choice there. This is why so many of Canadians died, because they were only pions to the English. Go back to school, and this time you should study.

Seeing the style and the tone of MGP, I think it must be that Anonymous fella that was always talking down to people on Vive some time ago. Anyhow, if he is not American he surely sound like one of those Neocons that voted for Bush and would vote for him again if he could represent himself for a third time.

Believe all you want in YOUR (and Bush's) 911 truth and in your reasons to justify the illegal occupation of Iraq. The blood of hundred of thousands women and children are on your hands and those of your president and his cronies.

Hey Armygut 
Break trance and see if ya can get yer head a round this 
<a href="http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/laboetie.html">http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/laboetie.html</a>--- to realise our knowledge is ignorance is a noble thought. 
To regard our ignorance as knowledge- 
This is mental illness 
Lao-Tzo

<a href="http://www.arcticbeacon.com/18-Mar-2006.html">http://www.arcticbeacon.com/18-Mar-2006.html</a> 
see if y'all can get your pea brain around this MGP--- to realise our knowledge is ignorance is a noble thought. 
To regard our ignorance as knowledge- 
This is mental illness 
Lao-Tzo