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I was away on the weekend so did not see all the comments generated on my latest contribution untill this morning.

It is safe to say that this latest example of police brutality in Canada has stirred up a lot of raw emotions not only on this website, but across the country. We now also know that it has been publicized in print and news media all over the world. I think it is a black eye to our reputation as a 'peace keeping' country. It is not going to be easy for our ruling elite to put this crime under the rug and just forget it.

Furthermore I think it is unfortunate that 'booflade' did not feel welcome here anymore and said goodbye. This latest taser outrage, like everything else political is not a 'black and white' issue. We need input from all sides. Otherwise we are just preaching to the choir. The majority of people who visits this website can agree on one thing; we all want truth and justice to prevail, right?

   

"what you would have done"

I'd bring the man a cup of coffee, a doughnut, and a big friendly smile. I'd try to pursued him to sit down, point to the clock and make enough gestures to make it clear that his problem will soon be resolved. I'd get those assh***s from immigration to figure out who this guy is and what language he speaks, etc.

In other words, I'd work at diffusing the situation rather than escalating it.

What the HELL are cops supposed to be for if they cannot help people who are in distress???? The RCMP were talking about electrocuting the man even before they set eyes on him, and that is unacceptable behaviour, which is why many Canadian's think the (so far unnamed) RCMP involved should be charged with murder.

   

"This has become an anti-RCMP campaign and I wonder why?"

This latest RCMP inspired tragedy *is* not the cause of, but is a catalyst for a great deal of protest against the RCMP, and I'm very surprised that you don't know why.

Look at the history of the RCMP, and you'll see that the organization is rotten to the core. It has been involved in scandal after scandal, and while it merrily beats up of the poor and disadvantaged, it does nothing to deal with the criminals in high places, i.e., those who pay its bills. Given that it protects the government no matter what it does, not surprisingly, the RCMP has *never* been held accountable in a meaningful way for any of its past criminal actions. The force should be disbanded, and whatever is formed to take its place should NOT be allowed to oversee and investigate itself.

If you look at the Dziekanski killing, the pattern repeats - lies, followed by attempts to cover up, followed by more lies. There's no investigation (the RCMP cannot investigate itself), and every attempt is made to place blame on the victim. This is why people are so angry and perhaps fearful that the RCMP is out of control.

   

“Furthermore I think it is unfortunate that 'booflade' did not feel welcome here anymore and said goodbye.”

Poor baby! I have not felt welcome here *by some* so what?

The mere fact that we choose to post here leaves us all open t the opinion of others and that we are or become unable to defend our positions is the fault of ourselves and not of those we try to blame.

“…we all want truth and justice to prevail, right?”

Perhaps, but in cases like these one man’s *truth* is another man’s lies and as far as justice goes, justice has become *just us*. Look no further than the “Kelly Marie Richard: "the canary in the coal mine" of the New Canadian Fascism. Stephen Harper.” thread for your truth and justice.


That boflaade is a former police officer explains a lot to me. He may be out of the job but his years of service appear to have fixed in his mind anything but truth and justice.



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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

William Blake

   

"That is all I will ever have to say on the mater and on Vivlecanada. Goodbye!"

Sorry to see you walk away like this, it's always good and necessary to have alternate opinions in a forum, and in this case especially so from a former police officer.

One question I was hoping to ask you, was if you could offer some insight into why you think the RCMP electrocuted Dziekanski while he was helplessly convulsing on the floor in agony?

PS: This kind of lengthy discussion should go into the forum.

   

That you think even for a moment that this is a *bandwagon* shows not only your bias but a mindset that flies in the face of all that is Just.
I have no doubts that you saved lives in the line of “my duty” but that has zip to do with the attitude taken on by the police that we are the enemy and must acquiesce to your perceived authority.
There is no need for you to leave this forum! None! So don’t go all pouty because you have been met head on.


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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

William Blake

   

I collect stuff, quotes, sayings insights etc.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, Which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - That princilpe is contemp prior to investigation.
Herbert Spencer

Now that the *news* tells me there are or will be seven separate inquireries these words have great importance

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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

William Blake

   

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