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I believe that in the case of the Israeli government, it considers those human losses as "collateral damage" - which unfortunately is considered "acceptable" in warfare. Still there is a big step from that to saying that those people are not innocent (as per the council). If, as you say, the Israeli government espouses the council's stance, that would be news to me.

   

it is 11:30pm or so, here in bcand saw Harper on the news The thing I notice was
he goes into some defocused trace , not looking directly at the camera as he delivers a canned speach. As for WHAT he said
he aint changing be cause of no steenking poles.

he has a minority gove and this is a non-confidence issue
What the hell are the rest of the wind-up dolls doing?



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We have met the enemy and he is us
Pogo
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.
Plutarch

   

Don't the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion say the same degrading and insensitive things about non-Jews, or non-Zionists or better yet, GOYIM? <br />
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<a href="http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm">http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm</a><br />
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Gotta love all these sweet labels for humanity.

   

I think the way to stop this is to expose 911 (Sept 11, 2001). This would decapitate the Democratic and Republican parties in the U.S. as well as the dual opolies in Canada, Great Britain and elsewhere. By doing this we expose the global ruling class for the non-human species that they mutated into. This would also dump the whole sham economic system into the trash heap. What is going on are not the isolated actions of a couple of failed democracies. Rather it is the result of the struggle for global fascism.

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"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
(Albert Einstein)

   

i agree with diabones (sp? can't see the comment).....when will the opposition
call non-confidence??? screw the fact the libs don't have a leader yet. push
non-con through, an electiion won't be held until after the lib convention.

enough 'strategy' by the opposition...they can pull it off, wait for the election
and in the meantime harper's either going to go more insane and loose votes,
or he'll tame himself and at least we'll see more moderate response and keep
the guy at bay.

as for innocents, what a load of rubbish!!! right, as those babies and children
are born with the complete history and knowledge of their country's current
belief system. excuses, excuses, excuses. 'all is fair in love and war'? i
think not.

   

Milton

I completely agree with you in spades. 911 should be exposed for the fraud it is. This would cause a ripple effect throughout the world. And maybe then some elite names will come to light, and perhaps to justice.

Diogenes

I really like the cosmic rapture idea but have you talked to the mainstream consumer lately. They have their eyes glued to the latest reality show When I explain goings on to them at the local coffee shop they give you that same Stephen Harper glassy stare.

I'm not whining guys and thanks for the comments... it was just a rant. We'll all know the vehicle for change when it presents itself. I for one am ready for it.

   

"I think the way to stop this is to expose 911 (Sept 11, 2001)"<br />
It is not a streach of any kind to imagine that September 11 2001 wasn't engineered by the same folks (DSecendant of the Khazars)that engineered world wars.<br />
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<a href="http://www.rense.com/general34/amaz.htm">http://www.rense.com/general34/amaz.htm</a><br />
(a leangthy and good read) <br />
<br />
he Amazing Warnings <br />
Of Benjamin Freedman<br />
From Bible Believers.org.au<br />
2-17-3<br />
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What do we face now? If we trigger a world war that may develop into a nuclear war, humanity is finished. Why might such a war take place? It will take place as the curtain goes up on Act 3: Act 1 was World War I, Act 2 was World War II, Act 3 is going to be World War III. The Jews of the world, the Zionists and their co-religionists everywhere, are determined that they are going to again use the United States to help them permanently retain Palestine as their foothold for their world government. That is just as true as I am standing here. Not alone have I read it, but many here have also read it, and it is known all over the world. <br />
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A Jewish Defector Warns America <br />
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Introductory Note <br />
<br />
Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century. Born in 1890, he was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City at one time principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States. <br />
<br />
Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. <br />
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This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel, Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense.<br />
...<br />
"We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war."<br />
<br />
...<br />
There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I.<br />
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with respect to cosmic rapture I now bebieve it come one person at a time and needs to be tied to ...<br />
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He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him. <br />
He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him. <br />
He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him. <br />
He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him. <br />
<br />
Attributions: Persian apothegm, Sanskrit Saying<br />
<p>---<br>We have met the enemy and he is us<br />
Pogo<br />
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.<br />
Plutarch

   

"why does the Israeli Government preach the same line of defence for its actions?"

The State of Israel is basically a secular (not religuous) government that tries to hide (and has done so very successfully over more than 50 years) behind the religuous Judaism of a small minority of its inhabitants, as well as the sympathy of religious Jews and many Christians (and "Christian" governments) in the rest of the world that have been misled by an erroneous theology called "dispensationalism". That is a most evil deception.

   

(gasp) thank you! good info Dio

   

Yopu aremosy welcome!
My tone and intent has never waivered eversinse i became a member here and although I have taken flack for it
I shall continue to expose BS where ever i find it and when I need to be corrected for factual error I appriciate it because it only spurs me on.
please see my entery at

"Mass Rally Planned for October 5th"

Thank You
Diogenes


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We have met the enemy and he is us
Pogo
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.
Plutarch

   

<p>Milton,</p> <blockquote>I think the way to stop this is to expose 911 (Sept 11, 2001). This would decapitate the Democratic and Republican parties in the U.S. as well as the dual opolies in Canada, Great Britain and elsewhere …</blockquote> <p>I disagree with your conclusion. Were the exposure to be accepted by Jane and John Q. Public here in the States, all that would happen would be the selection of scapegoats within the parties to take the blame; the duopoly would continue almost exactly as before. Would you explain how you see the exposure critically affecting politics in other nations?</p><p>---<br>Shatter your ideals upon the rock of Truth.<br />
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— The Divine Symphony, by Inayat Khan<br />

   

Wow great thread, but WAAAaaaay off topic.

Whos innocent?

Given the World Zionist Organisations 1920 plans for invading Palestine, which included creating any pretext needed for forcefull ejection of the inhabitant 'negroes', i dont really belive there is any such thing as an inncocent Israeli civilian.

back to the thread: militant Zionists made their intentions perefecly clear in 1920 long before the Jewish Holocaust. The big question the Zionists had then was how do we convince European Jews to migrate to Palestine? *** Hmmm...thing about that one for a while. Ive also learned that not all Zionists are Jews. - Hal, Ottawa

   

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