Taliban's terror tactics reconquer Afghanistan

Armyguy 
 
Do you really think that you and your Marlboro men are making a difference. 
 
These things you speak of happen in Canada in the East Indian community. They are crimes in our country and should be brought to the surface and punished. The Indians choose to handle these problems on there own. Not all Indians are like this but some are. Same as I suspect the Afgans are. 
You and your people are easily manipulated and told what to believe. This saddens me greatly. If justice was truly the aim here then maybe the west would not ally themselves with scum to futher their goals. 
 
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I've heard you say that you want to kill all the taliban and of course that is your programming and although I don't agree with you I understand you. 
But Armyguy... When all of our enemies in afganistan are dead be reassured that the powers that be will find other enemies in the world for you to kill. Perhaps you can hit 20 tours. Maybe the ghosts of the dead you've dispatched will not haunt you in your later years when you've realized you have been duped.

How do you know, if we are making a differance or not? Have you been there? NO. All you see is the crap that CTV<CBC< GLOBAL show. They don't show the good, because that does not sell. Would you really watch the news, if all you saw was our PRT Engineers building a well? or school?. NO. But people will watch when they have CANADIANS ATTACKED!.
I have been there twice and WE ARE HELPING!
As for the Indians? what are you F$%^ing talking about. Muslum Law? well if you are people do go to jail for it.
I am not programed, I do a job that I have been trained to do. As for killing the Taliban, if you don't like it so much. Invite them to dinner, you and all the rest of the uniformed can go and help clean their AKs, or help plant a bomb.

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27 yrs in the military, 9 tours and one more almost complete..

"People just don't get it, it's not a war. It is an operation to get rid of a bunch of dickheads."

Sure, the US led invasion of Afghanistan, costing billions and rising, was done out of an act of charitable kindness simply to get rid of a bunch of criminally insane evil doers and spread freedom and democracy to a nation unable to help itself.

Not directly, 911 was the last straw. We spent Billions during WW2 to get rid of Hitler?
So most of you would perfer them to be under the Taliban? Maybe the Taliban should get a party for the next Canadian Election. Most of you need you lives changed. Maybe a beheading would be fun? No a stoning would be better.
And if you cannot pay for you debt, you can just sell your daughter. I think some of you freaks, would be the one buying.
There would be no Welfare, I would like that. Just get rid of all the welfare bums, the Taliban way. No health care, you wouldn't need it. If you get sick, maybe, just try some goat crap on your cancer.
We could get rid of all the cars, that would save gas, and the enviroment. Just ride a goat cart.
Wakeup people, every goverment is corrupt. It took, 5 yrs for the US to get a real goverment, It took us 4 yrs for the org provinces to get together. So it will that time.
I rether help them, than most lazy Canadians on welfare. Afghanis are some of the hardest workers, I have seen.

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27 yrs in the military, 9 tours and one more almost complete..

"911 was the last straw" No it wasn't: <a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/preplanned.html">THE US GOVERNMENT INFORMED OTHER NATIONS OF ITS PLAN TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN MONTHS BEFORE THE 9/11 ATTACKS</a> In addition, it has become widely known that <a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wrh_9-11_index.html">the official 9/11 story is a lie</a>. Assuming what you say is somehow true, that 9/11 was the "last straw" (despite all the evidence to the contrary), why are you spewing forth this propaganda about helping the Afghan people when by your own admission you say that's NOT why the US invaded the country to begin with, and that's NOT why Canada is helping out? Without a leg to stand on, off you go with fear mongering about having our heads chopped off by the Taliban. I think most of us know that the Taliban's method of law enforcement can never have any affect on Canadians. If anything, Canada's involvement will definitely make the Taliban hostile towards the troops and so-called contractors that are stationed there. Prior to the invasion, there was no indication that the Taliban presented any threat towards the Canadian people. If any threat materializes, then I would have to say it was caused directly by Canada's involvement.

So the Taliban Law enforcement would not have any effect? It would if you saw it many many times. OOOO your so tough, seeing a women stoned, or a man beheaded. Maybe a hand cut off?
Maybe we should have a lil Taliban law here. It would save money on jails.
And as for fear mongering, I ask you again have you been there? Do you know, what life was with the Taliban. Before we showedup, there were not many foreigners. As stated, Teachers, Doctors were not allowed to practice.

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27 yrs in the military, 9 tours and one more almost complete..

I don't understand what your point is.

The fact is that we don't have Taliban law here, and the Taliban is over in Afghanistan not here in Canada.

So long as you are NOT messing around in the affairs of Afghanistan there's nothing to worry about. So what in the hell are Canadian troops doing in Afghanistan?

Canada is having some serious issues with a creeping totalitarianism that we need to address ourselves right here at home.

Normally what happens in Afghanistan is not any of our business, and what happens here in Canada is normally none of the Afghan peoples business, yet I'm afraind we both have the same demons to fend off.

In my opinion, people with extremist views such those you are expressing are no better than those of the Taliban. I would not wish to be ruled by the likes of you're militaristic ideology any more than those of the Taliban.

If you guys weren't killing them then perhaps I would invite them for dinner. Maybe with conversation and not bullets I could do more than you. Treating someone with respect always gets better results with time. I'm sure they could teach me some things as well.
Trouble is that you have been murdering their brothers and hate begets hate. All you are doing is trying to ally yourself with the locals to divide and conquer. Hand out a few chocolates, dig a few wells, buy a few text books. Please don't buy into this. All you do is isolate the locals and make them targets as well. Then you return to your compound secure in the fact that you have made targets of all those children. Collaboration with the enemy is of course frowned on everywhere. But hey! good job.

Armyguy's problem (beyond his obviously racist stand) is that he cannot see the psychotic logic he spouts.

Armyguy figures we were right in invading Afghanistan because the taliban doesn't like the west. Of course, Dubyah seemed to like the Taliban, and they him, when he hosted them at his ranch a little while before 9/11 to negotiate the oil pipeline. It wasn't until the pipeline negotiations went sour that the Taliban became an evil regime.

Who created the Taliban? Who funded and trained their fighters? Who disseminated propaganda throughout the middle east to whip up extremism to repel the invaders? The USA of course - when the invaders were Soviets. As soon as the Afghan's stopped being lapdogs to the USA - BOOM, they're "Muslim Extremists that hate the west".

Of course, the Armyguy's of this world also seem to forget, the Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. They're crime was supposedly "Harbouring terrorists". Not withstanding the fact that the terrorists were created and supported by the USA in the first place, the Taliban's "Harbouring" consisted of them asking for EVIDENCE before they would extradite Bin Laden. No US citizen would ever be extradited without the other country providing evidence. There would be a court hearing to see if the evidence was sufficient to warrent charges and therefore extradition. When the Taliban ask for evidence, that makes them "Terrorists".

And of course, If we are allowed to invade and slaughter Afghan's because "We don't like them", then that means that Anyone in the world is allowed to kill Canadians because they don't like us. You cannot have it one way - if its good enough for us, its good enough for them. MIGHT MAKES RIGHT is what Armyguy is really giving for an excuse to do whatever the hell we want. As long as we can kick sand in the face of the skinny guy, we are in the right.

More than 9000 schools are now open in Afghanistan since 2001. Yes, there have been over 300 school closings in the south near Kandahar in the past 6 months due to the Taliban resurgence. But the number of openings far exceeds closings. So I'd say that based on this number alone, that reconstruction is moving along elsewhere in the country. As the article itself says, up until about a year ago, there was construction occuring even in Kandahar... up until your local heros the Taliban were supposedly coming back.

Look at where the Taliban operate out of. They are trying to make a comeback from their home base of operations. The US and NATO made a mistake in 2001-2005 when they largely abandoned the southern region... this allowed the Taliban to re-establish itself. Now, when the Afghan and coalition troops move in to the area, they are faced with tackling a group that has had grass roots support from that region. They conquered most of Afghanistan using their Pashtun support. But let's be clear, the Taliban did not rule all of Afghanistan, they were in the midst of a long running civil war with the Northern Alliance when the invasion took place. They are not the "popular" party of Afghanistan. They are possibly the party of popularity and stability in the Kandahar region. But if they were so loved, why does everyone flee them? Their own tactics will be their downfall. If ever there were a more indiscriminate and ruthless regime, it would have been Idi Amin or Pol Pot. The Taliban don't have the support of Afghans in general. Their only power comes from fear. They can't come out of the shadows, because when they do, they are killed by Afghans or the coalition. They will wither and die in the light of day... which is why we need to be in the south.

Nice to see you back, Michael!

Are you saying that the bombing and occupation of Afghanistan was done mainly for humanitarian reasons?

We do give out Books, Candy, etc. Are you for real? all they know is hate. Many of the Taiban are not Afghanis, they come from the middle east, North America, and Asia. We picked up one guy from London. He was white, but turn muslim. He called every name in the book.
We found out, his family was still in London, hard working people, and thought their son was in working for the UN.
I think it was a shock, when the truth came out. So don't give me there brother are being killed.
In Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc. I have met people from Canada fighting for each side.
Canadians killing Canadians. I know some of you socalled pasifist love that.

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27 yrs in the military, 9 tours and one more almost complete..

No, I never did. It was done to oust the Taliban who were harboring Bin Laden. To eliminate the government that permitted the environment to set up the 9/11 attacks and ensure that the country would not be a threat again.

Well, you should drop the nonesense about being there to help the Afghan peoiple, since as you say, that's NOT why we're there at all.

With the concept of destroying and then reconstructing Afghanistan to suit our needs only because of 9/11, I assume you are one of the dwindling numbers of people who still think that the official 9/11 conspiracy theory is actually the truth.

The trouble is that even the FBI did not have enough evidence to list Bin Laden as being a suspect in the 9/11 attacks. There was not a shred of evidence link the Taliban to 9/11, but if you know of evidence, plese direct me to it.