Vive le Canada: a noble concept, a truly free press

It was more than 45 years ago that I wrote my first "letter to the editor" that was published. Sometimes I have stopped for a year or so, but then I get the urge again. I have also been a ghost writer. Just after Canada's referendum about 15 years ago, I wrote four letters: I signed one and got three signed by friends. Totally different letters, but all supporting the "no" vote that had won. I faxed them from different fax machines. The next day, I saw all four of them printed, almost next to each other.....

Most recently, I have started to ignore the MSM. It has been very disappointing to see your own good letters not being published, and some very poor ones in print. Editors of the MSM have also resorted to "editing" out portions of my letters that seemed important. As a result, what is printed does not make sense or skews the meaning so much that it in one case actually said the opposite of what I had intended to get across.

I am very pleased to see this does not happen with Vive le Canada. Is this the really free press that started in the Netherlands many centuries ago and took many years to get in vogue in the English speaking world? I ask this because really, the MSM have blown it recently.

A little self-reflection at the beginning of a new year (not too late yet) is good: We all sometimes say too much, and then regret it. So let's take BCMary's words to heart and try to do better, all the time. Nobody's perfect.

And you said you wanted to let it go. That too was nonsense I see.

mundus vult decipi

"Maybe it is only in recent years that you have become
cognizant of that fact but in truth the mainstream press
has been in the hands of the Zionists since the turn of
the last century and it is only due to the recent
developments in cyberspace that we have come to
finally see that we were duped all our lives on major
political, economic, religious, philosophical and cultural
issues."

Good point - quite a scam they got going there to
promote their own filthy selfish interests. Some things,
or should I say people, never change.

Diogense, my vote is with you. I am not about to go
against a guy named after the Ultimate Cynic. Best
User Name of all time dude!

*And you said you wanted to let it go. That too was nonsense I see.*
Au contraire, Mon Ami. And on both counts too!
What I said was * Let it go? I did* and I had until mary blindsided me yet again by asking someone other than me, what I meant.
You may be one of those of the world choosing to be deceived.
I am not!
Here is your deception:
Scared, very scared she said, of what I ask? Loosing her faculties?
Put your fears to rest, Sweet mary and like the good little newspaper gal you are, go to the source.

How fitting these word I let speak for me,

"Mundus vult decipi -- the world wants to be deceived. The truth is too complex and frightening; the taste for the truth is an acquired taste that few acquire.
"Not all deceptions are palatable. Untruths are too easy to come by, too quickly exploded, too cheap and ephemeral to give lasting comfort. Mundus vult decipi; but there is a hierarchy of deceptions.
"Near the bottom of the ladder is journalism: a steady stream of irresponsible distortions that most people find refreshing although on the morning after, or at least within a week, it will be stale and flat.
"On a higher level we find fictions that men eagerly believe, regardless of the evidence, because they gratify some wish.
"Near the top of the ladder we encounter curious mixtures of untruth and truth that exert a lasting fascination on the intellectual community."

I hope you are still with me and have continued reading to this line. Did you catch anything in the way of a HINT as to where I am going with this thought -- and the Latin axiom?

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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

"we are on the same side"

Actually it was probably me; I know I said words to that effect in the same thread where some events mentioned in this one took place.

If you get right down to it, we are all on the same side insofar as we all love our country.

Regardless of side, left, right, upside down or sideways, the vast majority of us are nationalists of one type or another.

"Same side" seems as good a description as any for that.

Besides, no one said we HAD to get along all the time.

Can you imagine how stale this place would be without contrary opinions?

It'd be like watching paint dry.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Dezzy, with all due respect.
the &#8217 stuff results from my using Opera. I have sought assistance to rectify it , to no avail
Dio

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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

Y*all take note!

The Principles of Wikipedia etiquette cited by mary are NOT her words! She used cut and paste, something I have been slogged for, and by her as I recall. Had she followed Wikipedia etiquette in the first place we wouldn’t be here doing this.

Scroll to the Wiki rules. Read them.
I will do my level best to do so too. And if that don*t work, I use my crooked best
This stir the pot, Let*s you and him fight stuff needs to end here! Now!
Will it? It all depends on you!

I double dog dare ya to let it be hehehe

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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

I have certainly enjoyed spending time on Vive and sharing comments with members. There is no other like it that I have found.

As for BC Mary and Diogenes obvious hostility towards one another I happen to find rather entertaining. The two of you truly make me laugh. Could be my experience as #5 in a family of 12 kids. With that many siblings one learns early on NOT to take criticism personally AND how beneficial it can be to know when to laugh at oneself.

It's not a popularity contest for me, I really enjoy BC Mary and Diogenes even though both of them are interested in some things that I have no interest in. I also adore a good laugh no matter where it falls in a conversation. Keep them coming everyone!

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

Y'know 4Canada, after this thread I wouldn't be surprised if BCM and Dio decided to have a try at dating.

This whole thing reminded me in some sick way of how two of the people in my old university english 101 class would go at it like cats and dogs, tear strips off each other in public, then for no reason at all end up getting engaged.

I am SOOOO dead ;-)

*to self: Raise shields and hope for the best LOL

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Thats hilarious! and just what I needed
No sheild needed.
Take a bow!

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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

G west, your post has me asking: “ Who is playing fair and who isn't”?

I am loath take sides, but I find Diogenes assessment of the byplay more probable. You can quibble over the degree of his reaction, or tastefulness of his response or the supposed obligation to "let it go", you can’t in all honesty though assign 100 percent of the blame to him. BCM, as a statement of fact and not a putdown, DOES snipe at grammar and other insignificant mistakes in other posters, in a way that might offend.

IMHO there is a contradiction inherent in promoting a kinder and gentler Vive in the same breath as branding other posters as less grammatically correct and loutish, and a hindrance to Vive’s spirit of openness. Also, what are we to make, of introducing the conflict from THAT other thread right into the middle of the sales pitch for a better Vive on this thread with the finishing. “I did nothing wrong, it was him”?

Do unto others…? If I was Diogenes would I feel welcomed into the new proposed Vive? Where was the olive branch in all this, because I missed it? Is an olive branch the precursor to letting it go? Should it be?

All of us have our warts weighed against what we have to offer and I can’t imagine Vive without BCM or Diogenes, Indy (loved your post in this thread by the way, don’t get to say that often ;-)

), or all the posters who bring me here.

IMHO, there is about this mess the taint of unpleasantness of the face of fair play.
I honestly don’t think that THE garbled sentence was a true barrier to comprehension, and if you really are advocating letting it go, then perhaps it should/could have been after Boflaade first clarified the information pertinent to the discussion topic.

I love Vive, since the topic is on the block; this includes the wide range of perspectives, views and styles found here. I try to be as honest as I know how to be, and I believe that goes for others as well. Now, I’m letting go.

DL
I do not care to get into a Latin-tossing match with Diogenes or an argument with you. I know nothing about the background of this and directed my remarks only in respect of the current situation. Where I stand on that is entirely clear.

A simple apology by Diogenes was all that was required. As for the rest of it, my motto would be, if I felt the need to continually post one - which I don't - qui tacet consentit.

“I know nothing about the background of this and directed my remarks only in respect of the current situation. Where I stand on that is entirely clear.

A simple apology by Diogenes was all that was required….

qui tacet consentit.” (silence implies consent)

Irony, incongruity, discordance
I do soooooo love irony especially when it goes un-noticed by the one providing it.

Freely translated GWest’s comment appears to say

*All though I have no knowledge of the events leading up to the current situation I will, none the less, isolate a single instance to pass judgement on, Or, without knowing the full details I will pontificate and judge. I will further declare my stance to be *entirely clear*
After I pontificate I will further confuse the issue by the inclusion of * silence implies consent*
It is in the spirit of the *new* Vive I am compelled to ask for, and expect to receive, a civil answer for, clarification of what I see as insurgencies in your post, Gwest

Are you expecting me to stay silent and therefore express consent to remarks directed towards me? Or is it you who after offering your opinion would have the readers believe you have not remained silent, thereby not giving consent?

C*mon bro! Fessup! Do you not see the incongruence of stating you do not care to take an action and then take the action against your claim?
Do you not see the how you have, after confessing not knowing all the detail none the less arrive at a decision which you are clear about?

Now according to the flagrantly lifted *rules* one should Not ignore questions, and work towards agreement.
You will do that with my questions will you not?
Respectfully,
Diogenes

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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

I'm probably not one of the honourable ones indy however
all in all good post
Dio

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[juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]

it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"

lex ferenda

Wow, I go away for a couple of days, come back and find out BC Mary and Dio are goin out? Man I didnt see that one coming...