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FFS leave American politics out of this thread. We are discussing the Canadian election.

   

Although Beave seems to telling us he thinks they should have voted for Clinton.

Interesting that he appears to have similar advice for us concerning PM Blackface.

   

Maxime Bernier has already done that. Vote peoplesparty. Let's put respect, fairness and commonsense back in government in Canada. Elect PPC candidate in your Riding.

   

People like I described are voting conservative or PPC in Canada tomorrow.

   

If we were to discuss the cultish nature of political parties it would be equally valid to talk about the "he can do no wrong!" one the Liberals have for Trudeau as much as it is for the one the MAGAs have for Trump. Slavish adoration isn't political anyway, it's merely human nature. The only thing political about it is how endlessly willing the fans are to shut off whatever they have it is that passes for a personal moral code in order to see Our Guy beat Their Guy.

   

Humans are hardwired for belief whether it be religious or secular. With organized religion on the decline in the West, something had to fill that void. The Liberals propped Justin as an ersatz messianic figure for the "progressive" left in 2015. Same for Trump the following year. They both created a cult of personality that would make Stalin, Mao, and the Kim dynasty proud.

   

The need for heroes is one of the more repellent features of humans. More so when that need overwhelms all normal sense and the idiots start embracing incompetents and monsters as their idols.

   

Last day for those without shame to tell us how robbing 25% of the food on some African kids plate so we can buy an extra Big Mac is a fantastic deal. Only 24 more hours of listening to lies about taxing the sale of our house, raising the GST, 31 cents a litre gas increases, sabotaging rival parties, generally showing that lying and cheating are now honourable traits.

   

Trudeau has a celebrity following from the left. Trump has a cult following from the right. There’s a difference. Part of that difference is also due to the political differences between Canada and the US

In the US, the President is one person and all authority if the Executive Branch rests in that one man, he is beholden to nobody and cannot be removed from office except by impeachment for serious wrongdoing. If Trump is removed from office today, whoever replaces him (i.e. the Vice President) will likely run a very different Whitehouse with very different policies because the White House is the manifestation of the personality and interests of the individual holding the office.

In Canada, the PM is simply the Party Leader and he is beholden to his party caucus, who can remove him for any reason, or for no stated reason at all, not simply impeachable offences. In this sense the PM is simply the “front man” of a larger group of people inside the party. If Trudeau were to be removed from office, it’s very likely that little would change because the policies of the Trudeau government are not Trudeaus policies but rather policies of the Liberal Party as a whole.

So in the above context, Trump supporters see their leader as a divine being incapable of error or moral failing. Even his most implausible lies are believed simply due to the fact that they came from His mouth. Like God, Trump is self-authenticating in the eyes of his followers. And everything that comes out of the White House is from the mind of Trump.

Trudeau does have groupies on the left but they are celebrity groupies not cult followers. For example I know many Trudeau admirers but don’t know a single one who thinks Trudeau is a leader in progressive thought. They understand that in contrast to Trump, with Trudeau, experts tell Trudeau what to think, not the other way around. This is why the “phoney” claim against Trudeau does so much damage to his brand. I’m not saying Trudeau isn’t progressive, I’m just saying he’s at best a follower in the field of progressive thought, not a leader in it. My take of the guy is that he probably considers himself to be generally progressive, but I think he’s probably not particularly well read on specific progressive issues or causes or spent a lot of time thinking about them deeply. . I think progressive thought leaders in the party establishment or academia or wherever approached him with THEIR ideas and Justin just went “oh ok cool I can dig it” and then he gets coached on what he needs to know to champion it publicly.

   

   

I think one would be hard-pressed to say the likes of Wynne and Trudeau aren’t left. They may not be left enough for some but that doesn’t mean they’re not left

   

   

I'm so sick of the political ads on TV. So full of negative bs and fear-mongering.

We got a bit behind on some of our regular shows that we have PVR'd so some of what we've been watching lately we can FF through the ads. Love it.

   

Today is Election Day. I hope everyone is going to vote. I got a job as an election official so can't say how I'll vote. The location where I work happens to be the same place where I vote, so at some point in the day I'll walk over to the next table to vote.

Vote! It gives you the right to complain.

   

   

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