Prisoners vote: Liberals tough on crime?
ridenrain @ Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:54 pm
Was this an example of the Dion Liberals's new Get Tough on crime?
Tricks @ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:09 pm
necro
hurley_108 @ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:22 pm
Tricks Tricks:
necro
Nice catch. On yer bike, ridenhack.
sasquatch2 @ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:48 pm
I understand, that in the US, that a felony conviction results in your loss of the right to vote....forever.
Actually the LIBRANOs are playing with fire giving the convicts a right to vote.....especially when they attempt to make prisons "smoke free".....inmates get very upset about that.
hurley_108 @ Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:00 pm
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
I understand, that in the US, that a felony conviction results in your loss of the right to vote....forever.
Actually the LIBRANOs are playing with fire giving the convicts a right to vote.....especially when they attempt to make prisons "smoke free".....inmates get very upset about that.
Actually the LIBRANOs are playing with fire giving the convicts a right to vote.....especially when they attempt to make prisons "smoke free".....inmates get very upset about that.
Each state has different rules, from Alabama where you'd be right, to Utah, where the everyone can vote even from prison.
http://www.hrw.org/reports98/vote/usvot98o.htm
What I find hard to stomach about this is that the prisoners are given a choice of where their ballot is cast. While this does dilute their influence somewhat, under our SMP (FPTP) system, where you vote is as important as how you vote, and it galls me to no end that a prisoner is three times more mobile than I in terms of where he casts his vote (because he has a choice of three places to vote, whereas I can only vote one place). They should be restricted to voting in the riding in which they were convicted.
ridenrain @ Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:22 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108:
Tricks Tricks:
necro
Nice catch. On yer bike, ridenhack.
Since time is a conditional thing for the left, I thought I'd dig up some old threads that highlighted you're "good old days"
Very little changed during the dark decade under the benevolent dictator, but in a brief 2 years, we've seen direct improvment. Clear direction from the Harper minority government.
Dion has nothing to say on crime.
icndvl @ Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:44 pm
Voting is not a privilege, it is a right. Even people in prison are entitled to certain basic rights. Voting is a basic right for all Canadians reguardless of social or economic status. Voting is by its nature a non-selfish act, and it should be encouraged.
sasquatch2 @ Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:19 am
A prison sentence on principle is a suspension of civil rights so why not suspension of the franchise as well?
$1:
Shane Shoemaker, serving a life sentence for first-degree murder at Edmonton Institution,
"Most guys in prison feel like outcasts."
"Most guys in prison feel like outcasts."
Which is logical because they are legal outcasts. That is the purpose of prisons.
cheryl08 @ Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:45 pm
It doesn't matter how much you want to bitch about it, each person is guaranteed certain rights, voting being one of them. They are entrenched in the constitution and therefore must be abided by any act that is passed.
The law is not biased, it doesn't matter if you're a law-abiding citizen or not, its a matter of equality, every citizen has the right to call the shots as to which party should be elected to represent their country. Just like charges against criminals are dropped due to charter challenges when police fail to follow procedure under the law.
Shit happens, stop complaining....this has nothing to do with personal opinion or political parties but the structure of Canadian law
Plus it doesn't matter if other laws come along to try and change it, the Supreme Court will jump all over it, its a charter infringement that cannot be justified under s.1 of the charter.
let it go.