Vancouver Canucks 2016/2017
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Hyack @ Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:39 pm
Spent most of the game trying to find the pregame report, with no luck whatsoever...
if anyone can find a link to it, it would be greatly appreciated.
Good to see they managed the win even tho they had the bad luck of an own goal to start the scoring.
N_Fiddledog @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:07 am
Yeah, they changed the format at the Canucks site. Looks like all you get now is a video preview and a little one-liner like this one for tonight's meet with the Carolina Hurricanes:
$1:
The Canucks will look to build off their season-opening victory when they host the Hurricanes in the second half of a back-to-back
https://www.nhl.com/canucks/video/previ ... c-45371403
However if you click to the schedule tab it tells us the game starts at 7:00 PM PT and lists the networks showing it as Sportsnet 1 and FS-CR (whatever that is.)
The Canucks look like they're going for the defensive style game, but just imagine if you could get a full 3 periods of hockey like the 2 minute burst of Sedin show last night.
N_Fiddledog @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:13 am
Also, it looks like the games are always going to be on the radio here:
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410
with an aftershow.
Canadian_Mind @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:24 am
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Also, it looks like the games are always going to be on the radio here:
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410
with an aftershow.
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410
with an aftershow.
Unfortunately 1040 is all I get for canucks hockey. Impossible to find a bar with the games out here, and the IPAD doesn't like live streams.
Alta_redneck @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:37 am
FS-CR ?
FOX Sports Carolina 
that's just a guess
Hyack @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:53 pm
Carolina at Vancouver
2
2
$1:
Can the Canucks go 2-0 to start the season?
Points to ponder as the Canucks, following a 2-1 shootout win Saturday against the Flames, look to remain undefeated in a 7 p.m. meeting with the Hurricanes at Rogers Arena (TSN1040, SportsnetOne):
BO KNOWS HURRICANES, DEFENCE, TOO
Maybe it was taking advantage of a team trying to find its way, but Bo Horvat had his way in two meetings against Carolina last season. He scored twice on Jan. 6 at Rogers Arena and 10 days later he extended his points streak to six games with two more goals in Raleigh, N.C.
“I’ve had good games against that team, but we’ve got to be ready defensively,” cautioned Horvat, who has five goals in three career games against Carolina. “It’s a quick team that counters you hard and we’ve got to get on top of that.”
Of course, the scoring outburst was during the days of an emerging synchronization with Sven Baertschi. Now, it’s a dedication to defence as the middle man between Alex Burrows and Derek Dorsett — although Horvat did have a shift with Baertschi on Saturday.
“Last year, we allowed too many goals and to have (Brandon) Sutter back, we have two guys who can win face-offs and play well defensively, s0 it’s going to help our team a lot,” added Horvat. “I’m embracing the role I’m given and I thought we both did a good job (Saturday).
Horvat is buying the company line of good defence transitioning to offence because of that bigger picture. Nine games in 15 days to open the season is going to put a strain on everybody. And as much as you can scratch your head about the current alignment, Horvat gets it. Add a better defensive stance and good goaltending and it should add up to more wins — in theory.
“It’s such a fast league and everybody has four lines who can play, added Horvat. “You have the grinders, but you don’t have the big, tough guys who only play five minutes a night. Everybody can play now and we have to have four lines who can compete with that.”
VIRTANEN CHECKED OUT, CLEARED TO PLAY
When Jake Virtanen was rocked along the boards by a high Lance Bouma hit in the first period Saturday — the winger got up slowly — it set into process the league’s new concussion protocol. Four spotters watching all league games in Toronto and New York have the authority to remove players from games if they exhibit obvious concussion-like symptoms.
They also work in concert with arena spotters to ensure that a player absorbing a hit that may contact the head is also examined. He may not look concussed, but needs to be cleared and that occurred with Virtanen.
“Jake came back and played, so I don’t think there was anything,” Canucks coach Willie Desjardins said of the winger’s 8:24 of ice time and two good scoring chances.
“There are times when you think a guy may not need to go (for examination), but it’s important that we’re on the right side. We’ve gone through the videos and we know what to look for and it’s good to have an independent person (decide) because we all get so competitive. It’s a good thing.”
DESJARDINS TRUSTS NO MORE RUST
Desjardins liked the finish, but didn’t care for the start Saturday. That shouldn’t be a problem against the Hurricanes, who have added Teuvo Teravainen and Bryan Bickell to add speed, skill and some toughness respectively.
“They play hard and I don’t think a lot of people talk about them, but their game has evolved the last couple of years,” said Desjardins. “They’re really structured and battle hard in the one-one-ones and they come to play. I like their back end before because they were young and quick, but they gave up a little bit. They don’t give up as much now.”
Which should mean the Canucks will be more ready than they were Saturday.
“It looked like we were tight — it looked like we weren’t moving great,” recalled Desjardins. “To me, it looked like a game you think about all day and that’s all you think about and then you don’t have any energy to play.”
NO MORE ODYSSEYS IN OVERTIME
It got so bad in the early part of last season that Henrik and Daniel Sedin suggested the struggling Canucks should just try to get games to shootouts because of 3-on-3 ineffectiveness. They said it following a 2-1 loss in Los Angeles on Dec. 1 which put the Canucks 0-7 in overtimes. It’s different now.
Whether it’s a better understanding of when to shoot and, more importantly, when to retreat and regroup to maintain puck possession, the Canucks were dangerous Saturday with three good shots.
“Change when we have the puck — that’s the key,” said Daniel. “If you just keep playing and lose the puck, you’re dead tired and they (opposition) are going to get a great chance. It’s about being more unselfish, change when you have the puck and then we can keep it. That was good (Saturday).”
OF NOTE — Jacob Markstrom gets the start against Eddie Lack and it might not be long before winger Jack Skille gets a look. “I want to get Skille in, I like the way he plays, and we did debate it,” said Desjardins.
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Points to ponder as the Canucks, following a 2-1 shootout win Saturday against the Flames, look to remain undefeated in a 7 p.m. meeting with the Hurricanes at Rogers Arena (TSN1040, SportsnetOne):
BO KNOWS HURRICANES, DEFENCE, TOO
Maybe it was taking advantage of a team trying to find its way, but Bo Horvat had his way in two meetings against Carolina last season. He scored twice on Jan. 6 at Rogers Arena and 10 days later he extended his points streak to six games with two more goals in Raleigh, N.C.
“I’ve had good games against that team, but we’ve got to be ready defensively,” cautioned Horvat, who has five goals in three career games against Carolina. “It’s a quick team that counters you hard and we’ve got to get on top of that.”
Of course, the scoring outburst was during the days of an emerging synchronization with Sven Baertschi. Now, it’s a dedication to defence as the middle man between Alex Burrows and Derek Dorsett — although Horvat did have a shift with Baertschi on Saturday.
“Last year, we allowed too many goals and to have (Brandon) Sutter back, we have two guys who can win face-offs and play well defensively, s0 it’s going to help our team a lot,” added Horvat. “I’m embracing the role I’m given and I thought we both did a good job (Saturday).
Horvat is buying the company line of good defence transitioning to offence because of that bigger picture. Nine games in 15 days to open the season is going to put a strain on everybody. And as much as you can scratch your head about the current alignment, Horvat gets it. Add a better defensive stance and good goaltending and it should add up to more wins — in theory.
“It’s such a fast league and everybody has four lines who can play, added Horvat. “You have the grinders, but you don’t have the big, tough guys who only play five minutes a night. Everybody can play now and we have to have four lines who can compete with that.”
VIRTANEN CHECKED OUT, CLEARED TO PLAY
When Jake Virtanen was rocked along the boards by a high Lance Bouma hit in the first period Saturday — the winger got up slowly — it set into process the league’s new concussion protocol. Four spotters watching all league games in Toronto and New York have the authority to remove players from games if they exhibit obvious concussion-like symptoms.
They also work in concert with arena spotters to ensure that a player absorbing a hit that may contact the head is also examined. He may not look concussed, but needs to be cleared and that occurred with Virtanen.
“Jake came back and played, so I don’t think there was anything,” Canucks coach Willie Desjardins said of the winger’s 8:24 of ice time and two good scoring chances.
“There are times when you think a guy may not need to go (for examination), but it’s important that we’re on the right side. We’ve gone through the videos and we know what to look for and it’s good to have an independent person (decide) because we all get so competitive. It’s a good thing.”
DESJARDINS TRUSTS NO MORE RUST
Desjardins liked the finish, but didn’t care for the start Saturday. That shouldn’t be a problem against the Hurricanes, who have added Teuvo Teravainen and Bryan Bickell to add speed, skill and some toughness respectively.
“They play hard and I don’t think a lot of people talk about them, but their game has evolved the last couple of years,” said Desjardins. “They’re really structured and battle hard in the one-one-ones and they come to play. I like their back end before because they were young and quick, but they gave up a little bit. They don’t give up as much now.”
Which should mean the Canucks will be more ready than they were Saturday.
“It looked like we were tight — it looked like we weren’t moving great,” recalled Desjardins. “To me, it looked like a game you think about all day and that’s all you think about and then you don’t have any energy to play.”
NO MORE ODYSSEYS IN OVERTIME
It got so bad in the early part of last season that Henrik and Daniel Sedin suggested the struggling Canucks should just try to get games to shootouts because of 3-on-3 ineffectiveness. They said it following a 2-1 loss in Los Angeles on Dec. 1 which put the Canucks 0-7 in overtimes. It’s different now.
Whether it’s a better understanding of when to shoot and, more importantly, when to retreat and regroup to maintain puck possession, the Canucks were dangerous Saturday with three good shots.
“Change when we have the puck — that’s the key,” said Daniel. “If you just keep playing and lose the puck, you’re dead tired and they (opposition) are going to get a great chance. It’s about being more unselfish, change when you have the puck and then we can keep it. That was good (Saturday).”
OF NOTE — Jacob Markstrom gets the start against Eddie Lack and it might not be long before winger Jack Skille gets a look. “I want to get Skille in, I like the way he plays, and we did debate it,” said Desjardins.
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Hyack @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:23 pm
Granlund scores at 1:11 of the 3rd followed by Hutton at 14:10 to tie the score at 3-3.
Hyack @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:38 pm
Sutter scores 32 seconds into OT to win it 4-3...
Next game is Tuesday with St Louis in town.
N_Fiddledog @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:48 pm
Down 3-0, so I storm away from the TV to pout.
Then there's a comeback. They win. Gotta love it.
And remember how last year they couldn't win in overtime or the shootout? 2 in a row so far.
But things to put on your to-do list Vancouver:
1. Score on powerplay.
Canadian_Mind @ Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:10 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Down 3-0, so I storm away from the TV to pout.
Then there's a comeback. They win. Gotta love it.
And remember how last year they couldn't win in overtime or the shootout? 2 in a row so far.
But things to put on your to-do list Vancouver:
1. Score on powerplay.
Then there's a comeback. They win. Gotta love it.
And remember how last year they couldn't win in overtime or the shootout? 2 in a row so far.
But things to put on your to-do list Vancouver:
1. Score on powerplay.
Yea, that's about when I left to take the dog for a walk. Couldn't believe being down 3 goals after the incredible first period they had.
Played some skyrim.
And now here I am reading the good news. thanks Fiddle!
Hyack @ Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:45 pm
St Louis at Vancouver
3
3
Canucks look to start season 3-0.
A sudden goaltending development and a Jack Skille sighting as the Canucks (2-0-0) and Blues (3-0-0) look to remain undefeated in a 7 p.m. meeting at Rogers Arena.
Tightness for Miller, start for Markstrom
Plan A was Ryan Miller playing after the team had a day off Monday. Plan B was to wait and see if he could back up Jacob Markstrom tonight.
Plan C is UBC goalie Matt Hewitt, a 23-year-old New Westminster native in his fourth year with the Thunderbirds, backing up on an emergency basis. He is winless in three starts, has a 3.54 goals-against average and .894 saves percentage.
Jacob Markstrom showed a calmness when he took on a bigger role last season.
“We had a plan set at 9 a.m. and he (Miller) came in and said he was tight,” said Canucks coach Willie Desjardins. “We don’t want to push it right now, we want to see where it’s at. I don’t think it (tightness) is anything major. If it was I would have heard about it before this morning so I’m not as concerned.”
Markstrom had to get his head in the right place in a hurry to go back in after backstopping a win over Carolina on Sunday.
“The best part is you have to prepare every game like you’re playing,” said Markstrom, who took his game to another level last season when Miller was injured for eight games with groin strain. “We’re facing a big and heavy team and it’s going to be a good challenge for me and our team. I’ve been in pretty much every situation, so I’m just excited to get in.”
Which is what you expect any stopper to say, but carrying the load is psychologically different — whether it’s for a few games or a few weeks.
“It was good for my confidence (with Miller injured) to know I could play that many games and feel good about my game, too,” said Markstrom. “It’s not like you have to play unbelievable or you’re not playing the next game — or something like that. It’s good to know you can get in a groove and just play games.
“It’s kind of relaxing. You just know you’re getting the shots and it’s a comfort level to have.”
Skille gets his shot, Virtanen sits
Jack Skille authoured the best pre-camp quote when the professional tryout candidate said “he’d chew through rope” to make the team. He did. The right winger will start earning his one-year, one-way $700,000-US contract tonight by replacing Jake Virtanen on a line with Bo Horvat and Sven Baerstchi who, according to Desjardins, “weren’t great” Sunday and “have to get it going.”
Jack Skille was having a good 2015-16 season in Colorado until he suffered a concussion.
A big body against a big team is the perfect entry point for Skille.
“He had a really good preseason and played hard,” said Desjardins. “He can bring some stuff to the lineup and we want to give him a chance.”
For Skille, that means giving his line a different dimension with a more physical approach and a more responsible and consistent game.
“I’ve got to play a strong north-south game and drive the net when I can and also play well defensively,” said Skille.
“I’ve been around long enough to know to stay even-keeled. This means a lot to get the legs going and get the feel for a game again.”
A year ago in Colorado, the 6-foot-1, 216 pound Madison, Wisc. native, who was selected seventh overall by Chicago in the 2005 draft, impressed the Avalanche on a PTO. He stuck and landed a one-year, two-way contract. However, a February concussion slowed him down a bit. He had scored seven of his eight goals by that point. When the Avalanche missed the playoffs and changed coaches, older players on expiring contracts were expendable.
Two takes on that Nordstrom hit
Jake Virtanen is trying everything to get noticed for the right reasons. So far, it’s been a mixed bag. He played the first two games. He sits tonight.
The right winger absorbed a heavy sideboards hit from Lance Bouma on Saturday — a collision that required concussion protocol for clearance to keep playing — and on Sunday he treated the head of centre Joakim Nordstrom like a 10-pin bowling ball and shoved it into the boards. The controversial play was not penalized and there was no NHL disciplinary hearing.
“I didn’t really mean it — it was me just trying to finish my hit,” said Virtanen. “Usually when I finish my check, I want to pin the guy there (boards) to stop him momentum. But he ended up falling pretty quick and I got his head and I recognized that pretty quick. I let Victor Rask (Carolina centre) know that I didn’t mean to do that.
However, that didn’t stop speculation on what should have occurred. Here’s what former league referee Kerry Fraser said on his blog:
$1:
This type of deliberate, careless and dangerous form of illegal contact should re-define what constitutes an Illegal Head Check! At the very least this is a violation of roughing. It could be determined as boarding and if an injury had resulted a major and game misconduct would be the appropriate call. At the very top end of the scale, a player who slams his opponents head into the boards could be assessed a match penalty for deliberate attempt to injure.
Meanwhile, Virtanen is taking his scratch in stride.
“Willie wants me to watch and learn and to keep playing my game,” said Virtanen. “I’m here to keep learning. I’m still young and it’s a process and I’ve got to be better with board battles.”
Circle game gets best of Bo
Bo Horvat knows it’s a pretty simple summation: You start with the puck, you get things done.
However, the third-year centre is off to an odd start in the circle after two games with just a 32.4 per cent efficiency rate. Normally one of the club’s better face-off performers — he was at 50.9 per cent last season and 51.4 in his rookie year — Horvat went 6-for-17 (35 per cent) against Calgary on Saturday and just 5-for-17 (29 per cent) Sunday against Carolina. Against the Flames, he drew a tough shutdown assignment against Sean Monahan, who went 13-for-21 (62 per cent), while Jordan Staal (8-for-14, 57 per cent) and Elias Lindholm (5-for-8, 63 per cent) presented challenges on Sunday.
Development coach Manny Malhotra was a faceoff whiz. Horvat believes he just hasn’t got the mental side of his game down yet.
“Tough matchups and it’s early,” said Horvat. “I’m getting in my own head a little bit, just trying to think too much when I go in to take a draw. I’ve just got to do it. I’m going to try some different things tonight. It’s not that I’m not big enough or physical enough, it’s just a mental thing.”
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N_Fiddledog @ Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:20 pm
I just learned a trick.
Sometimes they won't play the game on the main sports channels most get. That sucks.
But somebody on the Canucks board claimed you might be able to get the game on the upper 300 channels even if you didn't know you get them. So I checked.
Sure enough...
0-0 12 minutes left in the first.
Hyack @ Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:33 pm
Games not shown on the usual channels can be seen on Ch 302 in the Lower mainland....
I thought that was general knowledge....sorry... 
N_Fiddledog @ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:43 pm
Gotta like this idea of coming on for the win in the last 2 minutes a lot better than last year's style of choking for the loss in the last 2.
Time to break out the jumping frog.
Canucks win. 2-1. Henrik Sedin scores in overtime.
Canadian_Mind @ Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:43 am
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Gotta like this idea of coming on for the win in the last 2 minutes a lot better than last year's style of choking for the loss in the last 2.
Time to break out the jumping frog.
Canucks win. 2-1. Henrik Sedin scores in overtime.
Time to break out the jumping frog.
Canucks win. 2-1. Henrik Sedin scores in overtime.
Thought it was Tanev who scored in OT?
And yea, it's been 3 nail biter games... But it's nice to see the team rising to the challenge this go around.
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