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Normally, I would agree with you.

However, something has changed with this riot, and something has changed
with the people of Vancouver, and Canada.


http://publicshamingeternus.wordpress.c ... your-face/

360 comments, very few of them supportive.


Oh and Alex is over here:

http://publicshamingeternus.wordpress.c ... ver-riots/



I think one thing that has changed is the belief that the Canadian Justice System
really does not work, and people are fed up with it.

On a much deeper level than many people realize.

In fact, they are so sure it doesn't work, they are now prepared to name and shame
some of the people involved.

Honestly, does anyone remember anyone being charged with anything after the '94 riots. ?
Or, after Montreal in '93 ?

Maybe shaming justice is the only kind of justice that will actually work.
http://thevancouverriots.com/the-sherif ... ial-media/

   

Eyebrock cut her some slack, she admitted "On any regular day I would not condone looting."

Her diatribe is just so full of crap it would take all day to tear apart, starting with the fact it is way to "I" centred and chalk full or minimizing her crime and part in things.

   

Pathetic isn't it Benn?

   

None of my goddamn business? These people trashed my town. Humiliated every person in this city, including me, on the global stage. You're goddamn right it's my business.

This young lady here was one of my projects. I wrote to the charity she was associated with, to her employer, to UBC alumni affairs, to the UBC Department of Biology. I'm not writing threats. That's not my style. I'm enclosing evidence of her involvment in the riots, asking if their respective organizations want to be associated with that kind of behaviour and and asking them to take appropriate action.

I fail to see how any of that is not "following the rule of law." I don't see how that interferes in any way with any legal investigation or proceeding.

Nor do I buy this bullshit response that I'm somehow as bad as the rioters. Writing strong but civil letters to employers and such is not morally equivalent to torching cop cars, or smashing and looting small businesses, assaulting firefighters and police officers, or mercilessly beating on people.

Camille herself is the target of some nasty bigotry, no doubt about it. The women perps are getting it a lot worse than the men, no doubt about that either. And her crime is relatively minor, in comparison to some of what went on.

Maybe it's just that vacuous smile on her face as she, with the rest of them, destroy my city that really pissed me off.

Anyways, I'll continue doing what I'm doing. I find it somewhat cathartic.

   

An answer from Burrard Acura, seems she is already gone.


Dear xxxx,

Like you Burrard Acura, the Dilawri Group and all our employees were very saddened by the events of last week. For the same reasons that none of us wish Vancouver to be now associated with the rioters, we wish no association with individuals involved with the riots and looting. Our employees are all subject to extensive checks prior to hiring and Camille Cacnio was no exception, how were we to know that this full scholarship student from UBC part of their competitive rowing team would come to humiliate her family, school, employer and herself.

As such we immediately terminated her employment once the evidence surfaced on Saturday morning.

We remain dedicated to our customer and our communities across Canada though our philanthropic actions and support.


Christian xxxxxx

Regional Director of Operations

Dilawri Group of Companies

British Columbia

   

She's stepping up and admitting responsibility. If she now pleads guilty to the charges it would show that she's sincere. That could be taken into account at sentencing time. Unfortunately there probably won't be any charges. What she did isn't very serious and she's returning the pants, so the cops/courts will likely decide it's not worth the trouble. Plus she's female and Asian, so that will help her too.

I would fire here if I ran Burrard Accura tho. How could you trust or work with this person again?

One good thing - this shows it wasn't all white men doing the rioting, as the media would have it.

   

That's not what I said. I said I was as angry as you about the riot. But that doesn't justify frontier justice any more than it would justify you, out of anger and outrage, grabbing Vince Li and stringing him up on the nearest apple tree. Let the cops and justice system do its job. Vigilanteism isn't the precedent we really want set, is it? Is that going to make Vancouver the city you want it to be, people taking the law into their own hands?


Ahh, so this is about your selfish needs, not what's best for your community after all? If what you're doing is aiding the police in their investigations, great, carry on. But Martin's letter to the dealership is over the line, IMHO. That's not Canada.

   

Again, I fail to see how my actions in any way prevent the police and the justice system from doing their jobs. And, again, I fail to see how my actions can in any way be compared to murder. It's an inane and desperate comparison.



It's more like a win-win for me and the community.

   

I don't believe I commented on your actions.

   

Harassment is over the line. But a citizen sending an e-mail to her employer seems perfectly reasonable to me.

And whoever said above that people have lost faith in the justice system, right on. 6 people were convicted after the 94 riots. Since this was twice as many people we an expect maybe 12. And many people who cheered on the rioters will never face charges -they should be held to public shaming too. Like that guy wearing a Canucks jersey with a big grin on his face taking a pic of himself in front of a burning car. He made the front pages the first day. Bet he's still proud of himself and will face no judicial consequences.

   

My response to Ms. Looter:

So your only excuse is you were led on by mob mentality and alcohol. Pretty sad!! How old are you again??
And now you think you deserve "special " treatment becuse you went to the VPD to turn yourself in?
Somehow, I have GRAVE doubts you would have bothered if your pic hadn't been posted showing you taking part in a criminal activity.
You're just one more that's ONLY sorry cuz you got pinched. So spare us your vapid, "blame everyone/everything but myself" routine. No one is buying it.
You are a thief pure and simple. There's no excuse for it. And trying to downplay your theft by saying that vandals and arsonists are worse jsut goes to show that you really aren't the least bit sorry.
So suck it up, take your medicine like a big girl, and quit looking for vindication on-line, you ain't gonna find it there!!
All your so-called apology has done is make you look like an even bigger ass than the lovely action photos of you being a thief.
One last thing. Stealing someone's stuff is NOT a mistake. It's a crime!! For you to even try and limit the severity of what you did by comparing it to other "activities" that went down is nothing short of pathetic!
Grow up and take FULL responsibility for your actions instead of rifling off excuses for your bad behaviour and trying to deflect the blame.
And if you're worried about how this might affect your employment, well, I guess that's something you should have thought about before deciding a big crowd was anonymous enough for you to act like a complete asshole.

   

The bolded part were my actions. I don't see how writing letters make me an asshole, or a vigilante.

Submitting evidence to the police is great, but it's worth pointing out that many of these people would not have been identified were it not for sites like the Facebook "Post your riot pics here" group.

For what it's worth, I hope the VPD go after anyone posting death threats against the rioters.

   

And what if the cops and justice decide to do nothing ?
What happens next time ?



So, Ms. I Only Looted has lost her job, her fav non profit has publicly disowned her, and will now have to be careful tiptoeing around UBC, and may run the risk of being booted. Certainly none of the UBC alumni are defending her.

For me, this is better than what the police and Courts would not do to her.


Bring on the next one.

   

This is my favourite part



Adn here's a gem:



She should really take her "apolgy" down and engage in a little more self-reflection.

   

They're writing letters. That is a lightyear of a gulf between them and the rioters.

And, even though it pisses you off, these people have a right to inform a business of their peaceable intentions to business elsewhere.

By the way, your over-the-top characterization of a letter writing campaign as an example of uncivilized Old West vigilatism is quite possibly a non-sequitor.

I can't think of any more civilized response to such chicanery as a well-written letter.

   

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