Birthright Citizenship without condition
Brenda @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:13 am
I dunno... Do you watch CBC a lot? 
tritium @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:17 am
Brenda Brenda:
I dunno... Do you watch CBC a lot?
OH NO!! Not at all. I have "Good TV" DirecTV.
I don't like watching that Canadian brainwashing Liberal crap CBC, I watch the U.S. brainwashing Conservative crap FoxNews.
IcedCap @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:54 am
The rules should be changed, I'd suggest that in order to receive automatic Citizenship you would need one of the parents to be a Canadian. That would seem fair to me
MacDonaill @ Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:03 pm
Brenda Brenda:
hwacker hwacker:
IMO you should have to be in Canada for 5 years before you're kids can be Canadian. Anchor babies should have no birth rights @ 6 weeks.
I wondered about that myself. I wonder why my kids will be Canadian automatically when they turn 18, if they have lived in Canada for 5 years.
What's your situation? How are your kids automatically Canadian at 18 and not at birth or something?
MacDonaill @ Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:05 pm
IcedCap IcedCap:
The rules should be changed, I'd suggest that in order to receive automatic Citizenship you would need one of the parents to be a Canadian. That would seem fair to me
That already is the law, in fact. But only half of it.
Since 1977, you become Canadian at birth if (A) you were born in Canada, or (B) you were born outside of Canada to at least one parent who was Canadian at the time of your birth.
MacDonaill @ Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:10 pm
tritium tritium:
Brenda Brenda:
I dunno... Do you watch CBC a lot?
OH NO!! Not at all. I have "Good TV" DirecTV.
I don't like watching that Canadian brainwashing Liberal crap CBC, I watch the U.S. brainwashing Conservative crap FoxNews.
So if you live in Canada that would basically mean you break both US and Canadian law by stealing US satellite television? I wonder what O'Reilly or Hannity would have to say to that...
I've had DirecTV and Dish Network before (legally) when I lived in the States, but I have a soft spot for Canadian content so I prefer ExpressVu or StarChoice or digital cable up here. All the good US shows are shown on Canadian satellite anyway.
Brenda @ Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:06 pm
MacDonaill MacDonaill:
Brenda Brenda:
hwacker hwacker:
IMO you should have to be in Canada for 5 years before you're kids can be Canadian. Anchor babies should have no birth rights @ 6 weeks.
I wondered about that myself. I wonder why my kids will be Canadian automatically when they turn 18, if they have lived in Canada for 5 years.
What's your situation? How are your kids automatically Canadian at 18 and not at birth or something?
Because we are immigrants, and they are not born in Canada.
MacDonaill @ Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:15 pm
Brenda Brenda:
MacDonaill MacDonaill:
Brenda Brenda:
hwacker hwacker:
IMO you should have to be in Canada for 5 years before you're kids can be Canadian. Anchor babies should have no birth rights @ 6 weeks.
I wondered about that myself. I wonder why my kids will be Canadian automatically when they turn 18, if they have lived in Canada for 5 years.
What's your situation? How are your kids automatically Canadian at 18 and not at birth or something?
Because we are immigrants, and they are not born in Canada.
Just out of curiosity, what country are you from? If you don't mind my asking?
Brenda @ Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:07 pm
MacDonaill MacDonaill:
Brenda Brenda:
MacDonaill MacDonaill:
Brenda Brenda:
hwacker hwacker:
IMO you should have to be in Canada for 5 years before you're kids can be Canadian. Anchor babies should have no birth rights @ 6 weeks.
I wondered about that myself. I wonder why my kids will be Canadian automatically when they turn 18, if they have lived in Canada for 5 years.
What's your situation? How are your kids automatically Canadian at 18 and not at birth or something?
Because we are immigrants, and they are not born in Canada.
Just out of curiosity, what country are you from? If you don't mind my asking?
Oh no, not at all. The whole (mwah, part of it) story is in my blog, if you are interested
We are from Holland, Europe, living in Southern BC now, since a couple of months.
MacDonaill @ Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:33 pm
Brenda Brenda:
MacDonaill MacDonaill:
Brenda Brenda:
MacDonaill MacDonaill:
Brenda Brenda:
hwacker hwacker:
IMO you should have to be in Canada for 5 years before you're kids can be Canadian. Anchor babies should have no birth rights @ 6 weeks.
I wondered about that myself. I wonder why my kids will be Canadian automatically when they turn 18, if they have lived in Canada for 5 years.
What's your situation? How are your kids automatically Canadian at 18 and not at birth or something?
Because we are immigrants, and they are not born in Canada.
Just out of curiosity, what country are you from? If you don't mind my asking?
Oh no, not at all. The whole (mwah, part of it) story is in my blog, if you are interested
We are from Holland, Europe, living in Southern BC now, since a couple of months.
Oh that's cool. Weird thing, I'm wearing a t-shirt as we speak that says 'Amsterdam, Holland' on it. I've never been there, but my aunt bought me the shirt for Christmas. She knows I like geography. She got me another one that says 'DEUTSCHLAND' in big letters.
Myself, I was born in Germany, but my father's Canadian and my mum's American.
vicente @ Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:34 pm
We cannot totally get rid of birthright citizenship or require that one of the parents be Canadian. Otherwise you will end up like Germany and Japan where you have a rejected underclass of people born and raised in the country who have never been to the country of their parents/grandparents. There are many people born of Turkish parents in Germany and Korean/Chinese parents in Japan who only speak German/Japanese but know they are always looked down upon as eternal foreigners because they didn't choose the right parents.
How about:
Make all citizenship probationary for the first five years. That's for both birth and naturalized citizens. The condition for keeping citizenship is that you have to remain in the country for at least half of those five years, otherwise you lose it.
This is so that people don't give birth to citizen anchor babies that they then bring back to their home country, who grow up with no attachment to our nation or culture and then dare to call themselves Canadian when they want to come here for an education or for healthcare.
But first we have to lengthen the time it takes to earn citizenship from a pathetic 3 years to FIVE years. Three years is not enough time to feel like you belong to a nation - the Canadian people. Also make citizenship tests tougher to pass and include an essay part so that cheaters don't just memorize questions in order to avoid learning the English/French needed to pass the exam.
Tman1 @ Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:22 pm
Well, I thank my lucky stars I was a birthright citizen of this country. Then I wouldn't have to utter that crap to swear loyalty to the Queen and other crap. Tell that to your friends, have your kids in Canada, save the trouble.
Brenda @ Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:28 pm
Or marry a citizen... Makes you a Canadian automatically
Tman1 @ Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:37 pm
vicente vicente:
Otherwise you will end up like Germany and Japan where you have a rejected underclass of people born and raised in the country who have never been to the country of their parents/grandparents.
This makes no sense. Born and raised in the country who have never been to the country of our parents/grandparents? Germany? Care to explain that little immigration foul up there or we talking 1939 Nazi Germany?
$1:
There are many people born of Turkish parents in Germany and Korean/Chinese parents in Japan who only speak German/Japanese but know they are always looked down upon as eternal foreigners because they didn't choose the right parents.
HuH? Turks in Germany, Koreans/Chinese in Japan...what a crisscross. Didn't choose the right parents, only speak...German/Japanese...I'm lost. How the hell do you choose parents, or what country your born in?
Japanese are xenophobic and do look down upon half-Japanese and what-not but where do you get your Nazi-Germany shit from? Why single out Germany?
$1:
Make all citizenship probationary for the first five years. That's for both birth and naturalized citizens. The condition for keeping citizenship is that you have to remain in the country for at least half of those five years, otherwise you lose it.
Complete and utter crap and damn draconian. What are you conditions for the first 5 probationary years? Swear loyalty to the queen or else? I'm sure 5 year olds are so educated at that point on what country they live in. Great way to make patriotism at such a young age. *5 years old, be loyal to this country or get OUT!!* Nice plan.
Sorry, we can only hope you don't become PM.
p.S- this is in complete contradiction to this thread. Citizenship without conditions.....
