Deliberative democracy
Benoit @ Sun May 04, 2008 6:24 pm
Democracies are in peril when the people don't have the personal and material resources necessary to be engaged.
Benoit @ Sun May 11, 2008 7:14 am
A deliberation is a discussion aimed at producing reasonable, well-informed opinions in which participants are willing to revise preferences in light of discussion, new information, and claims made by fellow participants.
Benoit @ Tue May 13, 2008 9:36 am
Legitimate governments and legitimate laws are the ones who are the results of deliberation procedures.
Benoit @ Fri May 16, 2008 3:59 pm
A jury in a criminal trial is the best example of a public deliberation.
Congio @ Tue May 20, 2008 5:05 am
So how is it going? Is DDM moving on?
Sorry for my absence: Had really much to do.
One more Question: Is DDM like a consensus? Everybody gets only some parts of what they really want but no one is fully satisfied?
Benoit @ Tue May 20, 2008 9:45 am
Congio Congio:
So how is it going? Is DDM moving on?
Sorry for my absence: Had really much to do.
One more Question: Is DDM like a consensus? Everybody gets only some parts of what they really want but no one is fully satisfied?
Nice to hear from you Congio!
For now, DDM is not showing any visible fruits yet but it is growing its subterranean roots.
Deliberations are much more than negotiations to reach compromises. Deliberation is a process to search, extract and exploit the unifying or universalizing potential that exists in any dialogue.
Benoit @ Wed May 21, 2008 10:48 am
Benoit Benoit:
Deliberation is a process to search, extract and exploit the unifying or universalizing potential that exists in any dialogue.
It is not simply an act of faith to think this potential is real. The reason to think it has being given by Charles Sanders Peirce:
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Habermas uses and refines crucial elements of Peirce's account of inquiry in his own political and social philosophy. Particularly central is Peirce's notion of a community of inquirers. For Peirce, the community of inquirers is a trans-historical notion, acting as a regulative ideal for the growth of knowledge through science. Habermas adapts the Peircian notion of community in two ways. First, the regulative ideal becomes a more concrete notion ranging across actual communities and political and social dialogue occurring within them. Second, the scientific and epistemological purpose of the intersubjective community becomes a social and political purpose on Habermas' view.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/PeirceBi.htm
Benoit @ Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:00 pm
Although we often expect them to, governments can't make and sustain tough decisions on issues that we as citizens are unwilling to make or support. Only a public can do these things.
Moreover, democratic governments need broad public support if they are to act consistently over the long term. Their foundations are in the common ground for action that only citizens can create.
Politicians often face situations in which the nature of the problem is unclear, the goals of the public aren't defined, or values are at issue and conflict has gotten out of hand.
On major issues, it can take a decade or more to change policy. The role of deliberation is to keep that long journey on track and out of unproductive complaining and blaming.
And governments — even the most powerful — cannot generate the public will needed for effective political action. Governments can command obedience but they cannot create will.
Finally, it is up to us as members of a public to transform private individuals into citizens, people who are political actors. Citizens can create governments but governments can't create citizens.
http://www.kettering.org/stream_documen ... 7&typeID=8
Congio @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:30 am
"governments can't create citizens"
At least it should be that way... Look >>> Soviet Union.
Is there any DDM forum or something? I would to check it out.
Benoit @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:01 am
Congio Congio:
Is there any DDM forum or something? I would to check it out.
Deliberative Drift: The emergence of deliberation in a non-deliberative setting.
The literature on deliberative democracy has tended to focus upon practices taking place in specifically deliberative settings. We can also ask ourselves whether deliberation cannot logically occur elsewhere in the policy process, or, more specifically, can politics based on bargaining and aggregation be transformed (or drift) toward deliberative practice? In pondering this question, Habermas's argument that a communicative rationality underpins deliberation is useful, as it demarcates deliberative from other practices by a willingness of participants to cast aside fixed preferences. While procedures and institutional designs are inflexible, the orientations or rationalities of individuals may be much more malleable.
http://ips.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/29/2/197
Benoit @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:33 am
Deliberative Democracy forges a new relationship between citizens and their government, changing the nature of public discourse to focus on problem solving and a shared search for solutions.
http://www.uoregon.edu/~ddp/
Congio @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:40 am
I'll be in Montreal this summer. Is there any place I could go to learn more about this?
Benoit @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:25 am
Congio Congio:
I'll be in Montreal this summer. Is there any place I could go to learn more about this?
In Montreal, we will do the planning.
we have 3 major active parties, the NDP is weak. If another major party emerged with enough clout, we could see a 3 way minority/coalition government. Been to Eastern europe lately?
Congio @ Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:43 am
Eee, actually I live in Eastern Europe. I lived in Poland for most of my life, unfortunately. But soon I am moving away. Hope to be in Canada permanently in a year or two.