Longing for the Old Canada
hwacker @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:17 am
herbie herbie:
The Old Canada convinced my Dad his kids should speak English period.
The Old Canada didn't even have it's own flag. I was there, how lame was that to discover your flag wasn't even yours?
The Old Canada didn't even have it's own flag. I was there, how lame was that to discover your flag wasn't even yours?
English is our langauge. period
that was our flag until 1965. so stuff it.
CommanderSock @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:42 am
This is better.
English and French are our languages by the way.
Benoit @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:14 am
romanP romanP:
Benoit Benoit:
Like the new Canada, most posters here have big difficulties about being accommodating.
Accomodating to what? Selfish, crotchety old bastards? Fuck'em. If they don't like people other than white men having rights, they can move to Uzbekistan.
Skin condition
hwacker @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:14 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
This is better.
English and French are our languages by the way.
not back then. that was PET's god rest he's dead idea.
Benoit @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:18 am
If French Quebecers are able to cope with the Canadian Charter of rights, chances are everybody can.
herbie @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:37 pm
Trudeau didn't make the flag. Trudeau didn't make official bilingualism.
Typical neo-con responses, revising history and romanticizing the past. WTF do you think my parents went thru the war for, to aid some foreign king?
Speaking of which, is the last unfinished job.
Benoit @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:45 pm
The old Canada was an obnoxious mixture of commercial and religious imperatives.
hwacker @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:46 pm
herbie herbie:
Trudeau didn't make the flag. Trudeau didn't make official bilingualism.
Typical neo-con responses, revising history and romanticizing the past. WTF do you think my parents went thru the war for, to aid some foreign king?
Speaking of which, is the last unfinished job.
Typical neo-con responses, revising history and romanticizing the past. WTF do you think my parents went thru the war for, to aid some foreign king?
Speaking of which, is the last unfinished job.
$1:
Liberal Party of Canada
The Liberal Party sees itself as the party of official bilingualism, as it was a Liberal prime minister, Pierre Trudeau, who enacted the first Official Languages Act in 1969 and who entrenched detailed protections for the two official languages in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in 1982.
The depth of the party’s commitment to official bilingualism is demonstrated by the fact that the constitution of the Liberal Party contains provisions modeled almost word-for-word on Section 16(1) of the Charter of Rights: "English and French are the official languages of the Party and have equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all federal institutions of the Party. In pursuing its fundamental purposes and in all its activities, the Party must preserve and promote the status, rights and privileges of English and French."[31]
The Liberal Party sees itself as the party of official bilingualism, as it was a Liberal prime minister, Pierre Trudeau, who enacted the first Official Languages Act in 1969 and who entrenched detailed protections for the two official languages in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in 1982.
The depth of the party’s commitment to official bilingualism is demonstrated by the fact that the constitution of the Liberal Party contains provisions modeled almost word-for-word on Section 16(1) of the Charter of Rights: "English and French are the official languages of the Party and have equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all federal institutions of the Party. In pursuing its fundamental purposes and in all its activities, the Party must preserve and promote the status, rights and privileges of English and French."[31]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_bilingualism_in_Canada
Yeah you're a Canadian alright
Benoit @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:03 pm
Linguistic rights that are instituted more as individual rights than collective rights are irrelevant (whoever is their instigator).
saturn_656 @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:05 pm
Benoit Benoit:
Linguistic rights that are instituted more as individual rights than collective rights are irrelevant (whoever is their instigator).
Collective rights are a sham.
Toro @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:11 pm
herbie herbie:
Trudeau didn't make the flag. Trudeau didn't make official bilingualism.
Typical neo-con responses, revising history and romanticizing the past. WTF do you think my parents went thru the war for, to aid some foreign king?
Speaking of which, is the last unfinished job.
Typical neo-con responses, revising history and romanticizing the past. WTF do you think my parents went thru the war for, to aid some foreign king?
Speaking of which, is the last unfinished job.
Trudeau greatly expanded, or at least attempted to expand, official bilingualism throughout Canada outside of Quebec. It was his response to the rising nationalism in Quebec. The nationalists argued that French was the language of Quebec while English was the language of the rest of Canada. Not so, replied Trudeau. Canada is a bilingual country, he said, and set about making changes to expand French throughout the country, such as increasing the number of federal government jobs that had to held by bilingual people so anyone of either language could be served in a government office no matter where they may be. Of course, the Quebec nationalists were right. It didn't seem to make much sense to people in, say Saskatchewan where at the time the number of people whose mother tongue was German outnumbered those whose first language was French.
Benoit @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:13 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Benoit Benoit:
Linguistic rights that are instituted more as individual rights than collective rights are irrelevant (whoever is their instigator).
Collective rights are a sham.
Without collective rights, individuals become shameless.
saturn_656 @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:20 pm
Collective rights make a mockery of the concept of equality before the law.
Benoit @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:31 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Collective rights make a mockery of the concept of equality before the law.
To be equal before the law, one has to have first an equal chance to protect his/her self-respect. Collective rights are means of protecting individuals' self-respect.
saturn_656 @ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:34 pm
"self respect" should not be a legal concern.