Muslim woman's bra photo sparks controversy
Tricks Tricks:
Also, as per the statement:
$1:
you do not have to exercise that right every damned chance you get
Why not? Lets put this in other contexts and see just how fucking ridiculous that is.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of conscience every damned chance you get.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of thought every damned chance you get.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of belief every damned chance you get.
I'm appalled someone is criticizing someone else for exercising one of their fundamental freedoms. And a woman no less. Un-fucking-believable.

I think what she may mean here, is that irrespective of having the freedom to say pretty much anything you want, it should not, in a relatively polite and cultured society, give you free rein to be a fucking cock when ever the moments takes you.
Whether it's calling out the tweenie wanna-be thug in his hang down pants, the blue haired grannie driving 5 km under the speed limit, the two gay guys holding hands, the mall cop on the beat with an Orange Julius and walkie talkie, or the Emo kid with long bangs and bad make up - polite society respects reasonable freedom of expression and reasonable freedom of speech without having the unbearable need to exercise up to its extreme all the time.
Brenda @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:01 pm
Tricks Tricks:
Also, as per the statement:
$1:
you do not have to exercise that right every damned chance you get
Why not? Lets put this in other contexts and see just how fucking ridiculous that is.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of conscience every damned chance you get.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of thought every damned chance you get.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of belief every damned chance you get.
I'm appalled someone is criticizing someone else for exercising one of their fundamental freedoms. And a woman no less. Un-fucking-believable.

What does "woman" have to do with anything?
So you think it is ok, just because someone has the right to yell obscenities to someone, they should just do so? I am sorry, but we live in a society. If you cannot take other people and their feelings into account, because your "freedom of speech" is so damned important to you, offending every body around you, then maybe you are just not fit to live in a society and should just buy your own private island and yell to the birds every chance you get. People are not going to accept your bullshit.
Brenda @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:02 pm
Gunnair Gunnair:
Tricks Tricks:
Also, as per the statement:
$1:
you do not have to exercise that right every damned chance you get
Why not? Lets put this in other contexts and see just how fucking ridiculous that is.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of conscience every damned chance you get.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of thought every damned chance you get.
You do not have to exercise your freedom of belief every damned chance you get.
I'm appalled someone is criticizing someone else for exercising one of their fundamental freedoms. And a woman no less. Un-fucking-believable.

I think what she may mean here, is that irrespective of having the freedom to say pretty much anything you want, it should not, in a relatively polite and cultured society, give you free rein to be a fucking cock when ever the moments takes you.
Whether it's calling out the tweenie wanna-be thug in his hang down pants, the blue haired grannie driving 5 km under the speed limit, the two gay guys holding hands, the mall cop on the beat with an Orange Julius and walkie talkie, or the Emo kid with long bangs and bad make up - polite society respects reasonable freedom of expression and reasonable freedom of speech without having the unbearable need to exercise up to its extreme all the time.
I couldn't have said it better, and I haven't.
Thank you. AGAIN
Brenda Brenda:
Gunnair Gunnair:
I think what she may mean here, is that irrespective of having the freedom to say pretty much anything you want, it should not, in a relatively polite and cultured society, give you free rein to be a fucking cock when ever the moments takes you.
Whether it's calling out the tweenie wanna-be thug in his hang down pants, the blue haired grannie driving 5 km under the speed limit, the two gay guys holding hands, the mall cop on the beat with an Orange Julius and walkie talkie, or the Emo kid with long bangs and bad make up - polite society respects reasonable freedom of expression and reasonable freedom of speech without having the unbearable need to exercise up to its extreme all the time.
I couldn't have said it better, and I haven't.
Thank you. AGAIN

Fuck sakes, I'm tired of cleaning up your messes. Shut up already and bake me a pie!
Tricks @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:09 pm
Brenda Brenda:
It was taken down, which offends them.
Not what you originally said, but ok. I'm not so sure it offends them so much that it is a complete breach of the charter of rights and freedoms. I mean sure that probably offends them, but it's a different kind of offense, a much graver one. Just to refresh your memory on what that means.
"The meaning of "expression" within section 2(b) has been read broadly as including any activity that conveys, or attempts to convey, meaning to the exception of acts of violence and threats of violence." I see no violence there.
$1:
Saudi government has the right to free speech in this country.
They sure do. They can voice their objection all they want. They can not take it down.
$1:
Saudi government has the right to free speech in this country.
Just as Canadians have the right to tell them to go get stuffed. Their beliefs and 'sensibilities' aren't ours. I'm sorry but bending over backwards to avoid offending the sensibilities of barbarians is what has landed Europe it's problems with muslims. That way is a fool's way.
Tricks @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:17 pm
Gunnair Gunnair:
I think what she may mean here, is that irrespective of having the freedom to say pretty much anything you want, it should not, in a relatively polite and cultured society, give you free rein to be a fucking cock when ever the moments takes you.
So taking a picture of a Muslim woman holding a bra to state a belief or an opinion for a class assignment is being a fucking cock.
You do not believe this, cause you're better than that.
$1:
Whether it's calling out the tweenie wanna-be thug in his hang down pants, the blue haired grannie driving 5 km under the speed limit, the two gay guys holding hands, the mall cop on the beat with an Orange Julius and walkie talkie, or the Emo kid with long bangs and bad make up - polite society respects reasonable freedom of expression and reasonable freedom of speech without having the unbearable need to exercise up to its extreme all the time.
Are you suggesting the following:
1)Taking a picture of a muslim woman holding a bra is akin to being an asshole?
2)That this is not reasonable expression?
3)That this is an extreme?
If you answered yes to any of the above, then I'm shocked.
Brenda @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:21 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
$1:
Saudi government has the right to free speech in this country.
Just as Canadians have the right to tell them to go get stuffed. Their beliefs and 'sensibilities' aren't ours. I'm sorry but bending over backwards to avoid offending the sensibilities of barbarians is what has landed Europe it's problems with muslims. That way is a fool's way.
Of COURSE they have that right. But it does work both ways. And people seem to forget that because apparently, only their opinion is important.
Tricks @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:22 pm
Brenda Brenda:
What does "woman" have to do with anything?
Because how I interpret it (and I guarantee you how Saudi Arabia interprets it) as a direct comment on Islams treatment of women.
$1:
So you think it is ok, just because someone has the right to yell obscenities to someone, they should just do so?
Did that happen here? No, you're bringing this to an extreme. Sure running into a room and calling everyone a bunch of xxxxx makes you an asshole. These students took a fucking picture.
$1:
I am sorry, but we live in a society.
Yes, a
FREE society. The fact that they even entertained what Saudi Arabia thinks is disgusting.
$1:
If you cannot take other people and their feelings into account, because your "freedom of speech" is so damned important to you, offending every body around you, then maybe you are just not fit to live in a society and should just buy your own private island and yell to the birds every chance you get. People are not going to accept your bullshit.
Actually it is so damned important to me. When someone says I can't say something, that's a problem. Period.
Tricks @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:23 pm
Brenda Brenda:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
$1:
Saudi government has the right to free speech in this country.
Just as Canadians have the right to tell them to go get stuffed. Their beliefs and 'sensibilities' aren't ours. I'm sorry but bending over backwards to avoid offending the sensibilities of barbarians is what has landed Europe it's problems with muslims. That way is a fool's way.
Of COURSE they have that right. But it does work both ways. And people seem to forget that because apparently, only their opinion is important.
Holy fuck this is going over your head.
Brenda @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:25 pm
Tricks Tricks:
Brenda Brenda:
It was taken down, which offends them.
Not what you originally said, but ok. I'm not so sure it offends them so much that it is a complete breach of the charter of rights and freedoms. I mean sure that probably offends them, but it's a different kind of offense, a much graver one. Just to refresh your memory on what that means.
"The meaning of "expression" within section 2(b) has been read broadly as including any activity that conveys, or attempts to convey, meaning to the exception of acts of violence and threats of violence." I see no violence there.
$1:
Saudi government has the right to free speech in this country.
They sure do. They can voice their objection all they want. They can not take it down.
They didn't. Some clerk did.
Some people who might not be Muslims might find it offensive. I don't know. People find a Muslim woman wearing a niqab offensive. That's why the cry for a ban is going through the western world. So a Niqab with a bra? That might hit more groups right in their offended parts.
Tricks Tricks:
Gunnair Gunnair:
I think what she may mean here, is that irrespective of having the freedom to say pretty much anything you want, it should not, in a relatively polite and cultured society, give you free rein to be a fucking cock when ever the moments takes you.
So taking a picture of a Muslim woman holding a bra to state a belief or an opinion for a class assignment is being a fucking cock.
You do not believe this, cause you're better than that.
$1:
Whether it's calling out the tweenie wanna-be thug in his hang down pants, the blue haired grannie driving 5 km under the speed limit, the two gay guys holding hands, the mall cop on the beat with an Orange Julius and walkie talkie, or the Emo kid with long bangs and bad make up - polite society respects reasonable freedom of expression and reasonable freedom of speech without having the unbearable need to exercise up to its extreme all the time.
Are you suggesting the following:
1)Taking a picture of a muslim woman holding a bra is akin to being an asshole?
2)That this is not reasonable expression?
3)That this is an extreme?
If you answered yes to any of the above, then I'm shocked.
Fuck sakes, untwist your fucking panties here, Tricks. And before you get told to go fuck your self after the huge amount of words you just put in my mouth, re read my fucking post.
In general, there is no need to be a fucking cock on a whim simply because you have the right. Had you asked me what I thought about this particular situation instead of knee jerking yourself into a fucking lather here, I would have said that this particular piece or artistic expression falls under pushing the limits of freedom of expression in a responsible way to encourage a public discourse.
Had you not fucking knee jerked yourself into a lather and read the examples I gave vice the topic at hand, you'd see there was very little to compare. One is an artistic expression meant to create a public discourse while the others are merely examples of being a fucking douche. I would expect you can see the difference, but I've been known to be wrong before.
Now, are you fucking done working that big knot into your face or what?
Tricks Tricks:
Brenda Brenda:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Just as Canadians have the right to tell them to go get stuffed. Their beliefs and 'sensibilities' aren't ours. I'm sorry but bending over backwards to avoid offending the sensibilities of barbarians is what has landed Europe it's problems with muslims. That way is a fool's way.
Of COURSE they have that right. But it does work both ways. And people seem to forget that because apparently, only their opinion is important.
Holy fuck this is going over your head.
She ain't the only one.
Tricks @ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:33 pm
Brenda Brenda:
They didn't. Some clerk did.
Then fire them. And then tell the Embassy to go fuck themselves. You don't even understand how fucking angry I am over this. The fact that a CANADIAN UNIVERSITY, a place that is supposed to foster free speech, freedom of expression, the sharing of ideas, and the discussion of issues is even entertaining what these assclowns says is absolutely enraging.
$1:
Some people who might not be Muslims might find it offensive. I don't know. People find a Muslim woman wearing a niqab offensive. That's why the cry for a ban is going through the western world. So a Niqab with a bra? That might hit more groups right in their offended parts.
Since when does it matter if someone is offended? Are we living in a society where we have to make sure no one is offended? Cause if so, everyone just stop talking. No more differing opinions. No more questioning retarded shit. No more challenging of anything ever anywhere. Someone might have thin skin.
Here's an idea, how about everyone stops being so fucking stuck up and just rolls with shit.
Tricks Tricks:
Here's an idea, how about everyone stops being so fucking stuck up and just rolls with shit.
Buddy, read and heed your last line and ask yourself if you and your explosive fit of pique fit into this category. Or is it for everyone but you?