POLL: Should Canada return to Imperial Measurements.
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Tricks @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:07 am
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Like I said above, why do you think the French wine industry packs bottles into boxes of 12 rather than boxes of 10?
Because boxes of 12 are able to divide into more equal divisions than boxes of 10.
How do you divide a box of 10 bottles of wine into three equal parts, each containing an equal number of bottles and without leaving any bottles out? You can do it, though, with 12 bottles.
How do you divide 10 bottles into 4 equal parts? You can't. But you can with 12 bottles.
Therefore it makes sense that divisions of 12 are superior than divisions of 10.
Since when does dividing measurements into equal parts mean squat? How often do people who measure anything have perfectly divisible numbers? Pretty much never. And because of the Centimetre being smaller, it is easier to get a more precise measurement without using fractions. For instance, on ratchet sockets. For the imperial it is almost all fractions. However the Metric is like 10 mm, 11 mm, 12 mm. Which means it will be more precise.Because boxes of 12 are able to divide into more equal divisions than boxes of 10.
How do you divide a box of 10 bottles of wine into three equal parts, each containing an equal number of bottles and without leaving any bottles out? You can do it, though, with 12 bottles.
How do you divide 10 bottles into 4 equal parts? You can't. But you can with 12 bottles.
Therefore it makes sense that divisions of 12 are superior than divisions of 10.
$1:
And before you bang on too much about how measuring everything into units of 10, 100 and 1000 is easier than divided things into 12s or whatever then remember that TIME is divided into Imperial-like measures:
60 secs = 1 min
60 mins = 1 hour
24 hours = 1 day
14 days = 1 week
52 weeks = 1 year
Time isn't measure in either. There is no such thing as "imperial-like".
60 secs = 1 min
60 mins = 1 hour
24 hours = 1 day
14 days = 1 week
52 weeks = 1 year
ziggy @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:07 am
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
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ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
Tricks @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:07 am
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
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10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
GreatBriton @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:08 am
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
BluesBud @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:08 am
tritium tritium:
QBC QBC:
Oh no your not!!!!!
Took me 20 years to get this metric crap down pat, I'm not going to re-learn Imperial now......![[bash]](./images/smilies/bash.gif "Bash")
plus the, the rest of the world is using metric, no point in going backward
Took me 20 years to get this metric crap down pat, I'm not going to re-learn Imperial now......
plus the, the rest of the world is using metric, no point in going backward
Yeah, Canada just went Metric, but I never bothered to learn. I bailed on Canada and moved to the USA.
I just can't figure this shit out and always think in Imperial.
Somebody says -15 - it's like o.k. it has no reference point with me, it's just a number.
You say 14F yeah it's cold. 75F, great room temp. 90F I am off to the beach.
This metric shit is just stupid to me.
That's all it took? I am disappointed.
Tricks @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:10 am
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
ziggy @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:11 am
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
Tricks @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:12 am
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
GerryHurt @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:14 am
Tricks Tricks:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
Thats because you're only 17.
ziggy @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:15 am
Tricks Tricks:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
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LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
Ya,cutting grade is easier when you have 0.1cm instead of some fraction of an inch.
Tricks @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:16 am
ziggy ziggy:
Tricks Tricks:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
Ya,cutting grade is easier when you have 0.1cm instead of some fraction of an inch.
ziggy @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:20 am
Tricks Tricks:
ziggy ziggy:
Tricks Tricks:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
Ya,cutting grade is easier when you have 0.1cm instead of some fraction of an inch.
I should have said millimetre but when they stake grade they use .01 instead of 1mm because if one M didnt show up the person would mistake it for 1 meter because m stands for meter.
GreatBriton @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:25 am
Tricks Tricks:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
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10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
You're wrong.
Most British people use Imperial measurements.
$1:
Conclusive evidence of the unpopularity of metric measures in all age groups
Until recently we quoted the 1995 Gallup survey for evidence to support our contention that the general public continues to think in terms of imperial units and prefers to do so rather than convert to metric. The Trago Mills survey of its own customers last August, although only a local exercise, provided valuable current corroboration, showing that 83% favour pints against 15% for litres (Gallup 87/10), 82% pounds v. 16% kilograms (Gallup 87/10), 72% yards v. 25% metres (69/26), 87% miles v. 11% kilometres (95/3), etc.
In December, however, we were presented with all the evidence concerning popular opinion that we could want, in the form of a scientific, independent, comprehensive, nation-wide survey commissioned by Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd, one of Britain's biggest advertising agencies, and conducted by Research Services Ltd, a leading market research company. Its key findings are:
· 74% of the public find imperial units more convenient than metric;
· the preference for customary measures covers all age-groups, even the metric-educated 15-24 year-olds, and all regions of the country;
· only 7% are in favour of government policy which would make all printing and packaging (for labelling and display, and including ingredients in published recipes) exclusively metric; whereas three times as many (21%) favour sole use of imperial units, and ten times as many (70%) would prefer a system of dual marking (allowing customers to use whichever is convenient for any requirement).
Christopher Booker's feature in The Sunday Telegraph on 21st December, brilliantly publicized this report. The Guardian carried a prominent account of it on 2nd January.
Please take every opportunity of quoting these results in correspondence with officials! The public are clearly on our side.
GIVE THEM AN INCH...
What Britain really thinks about going metric
(Extracts from Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd's report, November 1997)
IN SUMMARY ...
The research:
• A survey of a nationally representative sample of 1,000 British adults aged 15+, carried out by RSL in November 1997.
The findings:
• An overwhelming majority of the British public (74%) find feet and inches, pints and pounds, to be more convenient for most everyday purposes than their metric equivalents.
• The preference for customary units is stronger than that for metric across all age groups, including the metric-educated 15-24s, and across all regions of the country.
• Women are significantly more likely to prefer customary measures than men. 82% say they find the Imperial system more convenient for most everyday purposes.
• Only a tiny minority — 7% — are in favour of the current move towards printing the packaging for goods, and the ingredients listed in recipes, solely in metric measurements.
• Three times as many — 21% — would prefer these to be given in Imperial measures only.
• Ten times as many — 70% — would prefer a system of dual labelling, which would allow the consumer to choose the system which suited him or her the best. The companies:
• RSL is one of Britain's most respected independent market research companies.
• Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd. is Britain's leading advertising agency.
Until recently we quoted the 1995 Gallup survey for evidence to support our contention that the general public continues to think in terms of imperial units and prefers to do so rather than convert to metric. The Trago Mills survey of its own customers last August, although only a local exercise, provided valuable current corroboration, showing that 83% favour pints against 15% for litres (Gallup 87/10), 82% pounds v. 16% kilograms (Gallup 87/10), 72% yards v. 25% metres (69/26), 87% miles v. 11% kilometres (95/3), etc.
In December, however, we were presented with all the evidence concerning popular opinion that we could want, in the form of a scientific, independent, comprehensive, nation-wide survey commissioned by Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd, one of Britain's biggest advertising agencies, and conducted by Research Services Ltd, a leading market research company. Its key findings are:
· 74% of the public find imperial units more convenient than metric;
· the preference for customary measures covers all age-groups, even the metric-educated 15-24 year-olds, and all regions of the country;
· only 7% are in favour of government policy which would make all printing and packaging (for labelling and display, and including ingredients in published recipes) exclusively metric; whereas three times as many (21%) favour sole use of imperial units, and ten times as many (70%) would prefer a system of dual marking (allowing customers to use whichever is convenient for any requirement).
Christopher Booker's feature in The Sunday Telegraph on 21st December, brilliantly publicized this report. The Guardian carried a prominent account of it on 2nd January.
Please take every opportunity of quoting these results in correspondence with officials! The public are clearly on our side.
GIVE THEM AN INCH...
What Britain really thinks about going metric
(Extracts from Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd's report, November 1997)
IN SUMMARY ...
The research:
• A survey of a nationally representative sample of 1,000 British adults aged 15+, carried out by RSL in November 1997.
The findings:
• An overwhelming majority of the British public (74%) find feet and inches, pints and pounds, to be more convenient for most everyday purposes than their metric equivalents.
• The preference for customary units is stronger than that for metric across all age groups, including the metric-educated 15-24s, and across all regions of the country.
• Women are significantly more likely to prefer customary measures than men. 82% say they find the Imperial system more convenient for most everyday purposes.
• Only a tiny minority — 7% — are in favour of the current move towards printing the packaging for goods, and the ingredients listed in recipes, solely in metric measurements.
• Three times as many — 21% — would prefer these to be given in Imperial measures only.
• Ten times as many — 70% — would prefer a system of dual labelling, which would allow the consumer to choose the system which suited him or her the best. The companies:
• RSL is one of Britain's most respected independent market research companies.
• Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd. is Britain's leading advertising agency.
http://users.aol.com/footrule/rslrep.htm
Whatever Metric measures there are on our labelling, it was forces on us by the EU.
And whenever we travel down the road, all signs are in miles not kilometres.
Tricks @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:26 am
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GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
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LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
Ya,cutting grade is easier when you have 0.1cm instead of some fraction of an inch.
I should have said millimetre but when they stake grade they use .01 instead of 1mm because if one M didnt show up the person would mistake it for 1 meter because m stands for meter.
GreatBriton @ Sun May 27, 2007 11:28 am
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
ziggy ziggy:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Tricks Tricks:
LightStarr LightStarr:
10 Fingers. 10 toes.
ROTFLWhen you pro-Metric people are losing the argument the only thing you can do is add silly laughing smilies.
Well considering the majority of the world uses metric,your the only one losing the argument.
No, not really. That just proves that most of the rest of the world are using measurements that don't work as well as ours.
You obviously haven't read (or conveniently ignored) the articles that PROVE that lengths divided into 12s and 16s work better than those divided into 10s.
Why don't you go back to the previous page and have a look? Or can you not bear to?
Come back to me when you work out how to divide 10 bottles of wine into three equal parts without getting rid of some bottles or emptying a part of a bottle down the sink.
Then try and do the same with 12 bottles.
Then come back here and tell me which was easier.
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