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They have a situation similar to their US counterparts. That includes "special" Rights over land usage(Casinos for eg), Tax Exemptions, Hunting/Fishing Rights.

   

There seems to be a few people around here who would rather pay Indians welfare then to have their land returned to them (land claims). It seems pretty ironic that some white folks (and grainfed) can't see that had these lands never been taken that perhaps us Indians could have used it for something instead of having to rely on handouts from them.

OR, worst case scenario, Canadians need someone to be giving handouts too and therefore need to keep First Nations in poverty and therefore the cumulative lost value of all of those 800-1000 land claims (i.e. 800 claims over 100 years (on average) at an average potential value of $100,000 per year (lowball if all relative to today's dollars) is $8 Billion dollars). Add to that the lost opportunity of having people working, training, developing businesses for that 100 years on all of those 800 plus sites - lets say for arguments sake we could have had a 10 fold gain over that 100 years, that $80 Billion dollars...

WOW, and Canada is still dragging her feet and you guys are talking about eliminating reserves because ... you like paying handouts???

You answer the question. Let’s get it dealt with and lets all stop paying.

Or you can agree that Natives should forget about these claims and start from Zero and give up their reserves and try to fit in to non-Aboriginal society under someone elses terms. Can you see a potential problem there?

   

Ok cool was not sure if it was a simular situation or not. Thanks for the info.

   

The treaties would have to be renegotiated and so would the Indian Act. Reserves were created for the Indians so they could operate in the benefit towards their fellow band members and only can operate in benefit to all the band members. Indian bands can surrender their land though any time to Her Majesty and forfeit all rights and privileges they held on it. I can’t imagine why many Indians would give up their reserves unless perhaps they were all paid compensation of some liking to leave. I doubt Canadians feel like buying out the Indians though just so they can leave their reserves.

   

Yah, ninohote itohtan iskonikanihke



Isko pisim ta sakasot, maskosiya ta-ohpikihki, ekwa sipiya ta pimapoteki!!!!



And what if whitey could go back and decide to just wipe out all the Indians? Do you think if you went back in a time machine and demanded they give a better deal for the Chiefs and maybe even more power over the res surfs the Queens representatives would jump at the chance? And why are you so arrogant as to assume the ancestors negotiated a bad deal? Maybe they knew if they didn't they were done as a race anyway.

Exactly how ingrained is the culture of entitlement in you?



And the guy who just arrived here from Syria is responsible for this how?

Guess what lad, the Muslims are a comin' and if you think the first wave of immigrants to America subjugated those already here, you ain't seen nothing yet.



Kakinehiyawan ci? Aha? Namoya?



Ha. Not a chance. As long as there are natives on reserves to be subjugated by self serving Indian chiefs and liberal whiteys who make their living of their backs guys like you will be their to keep advocating the system carry on forever only demanding the odd tweaking it for their personal benefit.

   

Yes abosolutely.

This has gone on way wy too long. disband the reserves, close down the DNIA , end the tax payer funded gravy train. Indians and the proponents of the indian agenda still have to learn that the best way out of poverty is getting a job, and if there are no jobs on the reserve or not enough then they must do as other Canadians must do get an education and go to where the jobs are.

One hears from the leaders of indian bands and others - Notably convicte rapist Paul Callow - who promote thier agenda that they are somewho special and deserve more rights than other Canadians who work to make their lives better. They simply have to grow up

   

Opps I forgot that part. I would say yes and no. Perhaps disband the reserves but create a larger new territory for them all to go to? I know just the place.

   

And then let them seperate

   

Kill two birds with one stone.

   

Are you trying to tell me that any political party in power in provincial and federal politics aren't self serving?

And if self serving means attempting to create economic and political opportunities for the band and its members I guess all First nations chiefs are guilty as charged. Its idiots like you who spew anti-First Nation rhetoric that forget that we have native run businesses and we have land and capitol to buy buildings and create resources to better ourselves in our own way.

If that does not suit you then shut up and quit holding the rest of us down. I Saskatoon we have 3 urban reserves now and one of the BTC Tribal councils owns a major building downtown. We have two banks, golf courses, casinos and other industry that employ not only Native people but non-Aboriginals too.

So I'd say some of our chiefs are doing a pretty good job. Shove your negativity up your ass and help keep the ball rolling by supporting people getting off the system.

Corruption knows no boundaries, and I would guess that the folks that are costing this country the most money in that measure are not First Nations people. You are so full of hate that you fail to see how far we have come in the last 30 years.

   

Quite true. The muslims will make the Christians and Jews pay the jizya because the muzzies call the Christians and Jews 'people of the book' so they get special treatment.

Non-Judeo-Christian infidels are routinely put to death by the muzzies.

The Islamic Republic of Canada will have no land claims, no tolerance for natives, and, in short order, no natives at all.

   

Ya, thats about as likely as me getting you to move BACK to the hameland that kicked you and your forefathers out.

That being said, don;t let me stop you should you be so inclined.

   

Disclaimer: I admit I'm rather ignorant, but highly opinionated on this topic. Maybe I'll become enlightened.

I have to say, yeah, I agree with the scenario above. I mean, how do you define "starting from Zero"? What opportunities have I been given that you have not?

Someone else's terms? Yeah, society's. I mean, they aren't my terms, either. But I deal with them.

   

Wow, spreading hate is the new cool thing to do if your a christian conservative on CKA eh?

Funny, out last Friday with some white folks, a Jew and some Muslum guys...it was like world peace. The only thing wrong with this world is hate mongers like you on all sides.

I say welcome all the Muslum people. They tend to be more respectful then the people who are already here.

   

Unfortunately, it's part of the Christian conservative agenda universally.

   

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