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This should be sent to the Provincial Premier.

   

Because you are not alone, workfare (slavery) is unproductive.

   

I've worked in IT and/or electrical for many years, and I have peed in a cup for some of the biggest names out there... and landed some great pay as a result, btw.

In the case of a job, it's not about trusting you, personally. Many times it is because companies don't want the additional risks and liabilities inherent with hiring someone who uses. And the thing is, you could say it's their business if they do it on their own time, but the fact of the matter is that many people start out this way and you never know if they'll become addicted and start coming to work stoned/drunk, thus making some mistake that injures or kills a co-worker. I don't blame them one bit, and I don't take it personally. There are some very deceitful and dangerous people out there, and they have no way of knowing I'm not one of them.

More on topic...

Back in the States, at one time in my life, I did need welfare. I used that assistance to bust my ass in college to get a degree and some marketable job skills so I could be self-sufficient. And I took so much crap from people, who before hearing my story, assumed I was a druggie do-nothing just leeching off the system. So I really resent anybody that wants to laze about getting high/drunk while on the public dole. I say if you want public help, the least you can do is pee in a cup. Had it been required of me, I would have done so without hesitation.

   

Drug testing at hiring, and radom testing after is compulsory in many professions.

Some of the masterbaiters here seem to feel themselve superior to truck drivers, who cannot have a beer after work----because they would fail a possible random test next day.

Indeed to drive internationally drug testing is manditory.

This resistance to drug testing of welfare recipients begs the question----do they have something to hide? If a welfare recipient tests positive, this is likely why they are unemployed/unemployable.

Don't play the disability card because the disabled should get disability.

   

Yeah, I understand you. That's probably why I'm not rich--becasue I don't care what they paid me, if my word's not good enough, fuck 'em. Also, it may have seomthing to do with the fact that I'm congenitally lazy and have no marketable skills.

   

When you live in a society where people are so proud to piss in public, you better hide yourself from them.

   

I certainly understand your viewpoint. It's embarrassing. And for people like you and me who take pride in our work ethic, it's hard not to take it as a vague sort of insult. But the sad fact is that more and more institutions of various sorts are finding it necessary to do. I don't know how it's done here yet, but in the States, worker's comp insurance companies are starting to require the employers to drug test employees in order to qualify for coverage. They've found the resulting reduction in workplace accidents to be well worth it.

Oh, Z! Surely you're not insinuatin' that I'm the insinuatin' type.

   

I have no problem with urine tests, it narrows the playing field and makes it easier for me to find work.

   

Have you ever ask yourself why it has to be easy to find work?

http://www.whywork.org/

   

Hehe yep. And in the case of welfare, it also would narrow the playing field... making it easier for those people who really are trying to get back on their feet, to get the help they need.

   

Passive resistance is a useful way to fight exploitation.

   

Welfare is not a job.

   

Also, it's none of their damn business what you do to yourself in your own private time.

Piss on the piss police.

   

I understand that alot of companies in the oilsands are giving up the drug testing because they can't find enough new hires that can pass the test....

   

Well, here's the funny thing. A lot of people take stimulants on their job, and employers allow it, piss test free. Why? Because they're coffee and cigarettes! Many of these people are addicted to both, and will be unable to work if they don't have their coffee and cigarette!

   

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