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Zipperfish @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:01 am

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Choosing none of the above means neither North Korea nor Canada escapes my critisism.


Nor mine. But does mean that the criticisms have to be equal? I don't think so.

   



Public_Domain @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:37 am

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Public_Domain @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:00 am

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FurTrader4 @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:46 am

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
MeganC MeganC:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Choosing none of the above means neither North Korea nor Canada escapes my critisism.


When making statements of global significance it helps if you use the spell check.

:roll: Nothing is cuter than the desperate digging required to nit-pick the silliest things.

As far as ThePsudo is concerned, I agree, this being some random nationalist forum in the wide expanse that is the internet, anything said here is purely insignificant. Hell if we want to get all philosophical about shit and what is and is not insignificant, then we could go further and say everything is insignificant, in the face of the greater reality. So fuck everything?

For what it's worth (to FurTrader) I don't smoke weed anymore and haven't for a long while...

I see this has all devolved into more childishness... Dunno why I bother.

Resume beating each other off, I'm going to talk with non-asshats for awhile.

Have a good night.


Then you must be just confused like Bart said! [B-o]

Have a nice day. :lol:

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:20 am

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
(Zelaya) proposed a referendum on constitutional reform, something that democracies do from time to time.


Zelaya proposed ending term limits for himself so he could become President-for-life. The Honduran Constitution reserves the right to rewrite the Constitution to the Honduran Congress and Zelaya was trying to do this by Presidential edict. In accordance with Honduran law he was removed from office.

Honduras strictly followed their own laws in this circumstance and they should be praised for doing so because no one died in this crisis. They have a body of law and the law prevailed.


Total bullshit. Lots of countries dont have term limits, including Canada. All he did was put the idea to a non-binding public referendum which is the legal way to propose constitutional reform. He was removed by coup, which is not part of the law.


Zelaya was ordered by the Supreme Court NOT to do this and he sent in the military to do it anyway because the Executive in Honduras is prohibited from calling elections, that is a power reserved to the Congress.

The Supreme Court found him in contempt, the Congress agreed and impeached him according to the law, his own Vice President agreed and took the oath of office, and the transfer of power was peaceful. The only people who thought it was a coup were people like Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Obama, and disappointed leftists like yourself.

Honduras acted according to their own laws and, like it or not, you need to respect that.

   



BeaverFever @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:46 am

More horseshit.

I don't know where you thought Obama thought it was a coup. They were pretty silent on the subject actually, making a general statement and not making any other demands, which is proof that they approved of it. The Organization of American States, leaders across Central America condemned the action and called for Zelaya to be restored to office.

He didn't call an election. It was a referendum...a public opinion poll that would not have required any changes to government in and of itself. It is not illegal in any country to poll your citizens on an issue.

   



BeaverFever @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:30 pm

Just so we're clear:

$1:
Honduras Truth Commission rules Zelaya removal was coup

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-a ... print=true

The Honduras Truth and Reconciliation Commission has concluded that the removal from office of former President Manuel Zelaya was a coup. It said the move was illegal and not a constitutional succession as some of Mr Zelaya's opponents said. The Commission investigated the events of 28 June 2009, when Mr Zelaya was forced into exile in Costa Rica. The crisis was triggered by Mr Zelaya's refusal to cancel a referendum linked to presidential term limits.

The report said the Honduran Congress lacked a clear procedure to resolve power conflicts such as the one which arose in June 2009 between the president and Congress, but that it had acted beyond its limits by deposing the president.

The report further said that Congress overstepped its powers when it nominated Speaker of Congress Roberto Micheletti as interim president.

According to the Commission, the interim administration was therefore illegal and a "de facto regime".

The report also said that 20 people were killed in the repression which followed the coup.

BBC © 2012

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:46 pm

Irrelevant posturing to satisfy people like yourself who refuse to acknowledge the rights of Hondurans to chart their own path.

The Constitution is clear on the matter that the President of Honduras does not have the authority to call an election, any election, and furthermore that the President is barred by law from proposing an end to term limits.

   



BeaverFever @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:38 pm

1) He didn't call an election. A referendum asking whether the government should consider constitutional reforms is not an election, nor is it even a propoal to end term limits (which would be in the form a bill, not a public survey).

2) Nice bullshit dimissmal. I'd love to hear who you think the Organization of American States was "posturing" for and why you think they felt the need to. This is a multi-national organization representing the government of all the Americas, not one tied to local interests.

   



EyeBrock @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:45 pm

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Well, as a person who is not a 'closet' commie, I'll say that I don't think Britain caused anything nor is it specifically a driving force of anything, as I'd say for any country. Nationalist finger-pointing is silly and rather immature, pretending one nation is honestly filled with better ideals and motivations than another is just hogwash.

I will stoop to a different level and say you don't have to include "Brits" in your first sentence, EyeBrock.



Was sticking with the OP on the Brits Mr C...

   



EyeBrock @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:48 pm

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:


Yep, Africa is doing a great job 50 years after the Brits et al left. You ever been out of your basement? I spent three years of my life in various bits of Africa. They replaced white dictators with black ones.

...who are mostly puppets of Western interests the because thats who supplies them with money and armsthey need to stay in power.



Ah, ok, so blacks oppressing blacks must be western puppets. Ok then.

Excuses, excuses.

   



BeaverFever @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:54 pm

Often. Excuses for what? Blaming ALL the parties responsible doesn't excuse ANY of the individual parties. France for example, blocked UN efforts to stop the Rwandan Genocide, shipped tons of machetes to the regime into arm the Interahamwe for their killing spree and finally launched "Operation Turqouise" to cover the eventual Hutu retreat when the RPF counter-attacked. Why? Because France ahs interests in Rwandan mining and agricultural exports like coffee and were also interesting in promoting French-speaking Africans like the Hutus over Anglo-speaking Africans like Tutsis.

But somehow you think that only people with fingers on the trigger are culpable and their protectors and backers are not?

   



EyeBrock @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:58 pm

BF, you have made up your mind and nothing I say will change it. My opinions reflect my experiences in Africa and in the UK.

   



desertdude @ Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:53 am

Thats exactly it brock, those are your opinions from your own experiences which at best are anecdotal.

   



BeaverFever @ Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:00 am

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
BF, you have made up your mind and nothing I say will change it. My opinions reflect my experiences in Africa and in the UK.


...as a high-level spy monitoring diplomatic communications? What "experience" could you possibly have that would inform you of the forces influencing those regimes?

   



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