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F*cking BINGO, Twila! Lets start with that. Sounds like you're ex is one of SS's old buddies! The life they live, hell, jail IS a vacation. My buddies, some of them still, laugh at it. Good food, well lets just say regular food, they get to catch up on "Seinfeld" re-runs, work-out (a lot!), & make "new" friends & learn how to influence people (those without guns, anyway). Even the penitentiary system is full of shit these days. No big deal, I hear. I have a friend of mine (23 years). Four years in the pen, Collins Bay, in Kingston, because he didn't want parole, he gets out, done, complete, no parole officer, his sentence is finished! I believed his bullshit for two months, got him in the union, got him a job where I work, lent him money, co-signed for an apt. & telephone. Guess where he is tonight? Yep. Collins Bay! Screwed me to the wall, well not really, I kind of half expected it, so I didn't let him have free access, but I had hope for him. Screwed. We all have a small belief in human-kind (I do), but never forget, a lot of these assholes deserve a lot worse than jail! And a vast majority deserve to be there!

   

Ouch!!!!

Jeez, I don't usually comment on other people's personal affairs, but since it is in open....

My advice would be to DITCH THE DICK FAST.

You can only get dragged down.

   

Badass, are you meaning me?

   

I know you've never been to prison. I can tell. If you had been you would completely understand that jail is not punishment. It's not corrective therapy. It is simply a place to put people so that the public feels better. In prison, an inmate has 2 options. 1 asimilate: this requires him to become hard, tough. or 2. P.C: Protective Custody. In this section of the prison he'll share a cell with a rapist or maybe a pedophile. In this section he is branded for life. He will get no respect.

Upon release he will still have the same problem/sickness/disease as when he went in. However if he opted to asimilate he'll have friends who've got better plan, no higher ups, have better connections.

I know that in BC if you call a inmate or criminally inclined individual a "goof" you had better make sure your tougher then he is or you have a weapon. Calling somebody a goof is also labelled "punking them off" This means you have to fight. Cause if you don't you will be beaten everyday, every chance everywhere. Club fed? Only if you can stomach that life.

   

I think BadAss was referring to me, Twila. No biggie. I know these guys, to this DAY I get tempted, but I like my boring life better now. Never made the "pen", daddy's money, mama's good looks helped, but its a fine line sometimes. The "goof" word in jail can get you killed in Ontario, right quick, trust me. If ya ask me, I hope this is where the conversation is going, I still think prison & "club fed", are way too soft in Canada. If you make a "mistake" in the States & wind up inside for something serious, you are FUCKED! Here, you can still make it out alive, to wreak havoc on the poor stupid bastards trying to pay the mortgage outside. You get a lot of chances to commit the crime again here. As for my "buddy" bookie, he still calls collect here, I'll see him again, lol....

   

In Canada you also get lots of chances to go "square" too though. In the US, pot possession is legally as bad as heroin, weapons, armed robbery, rape, murder, etc.


In Canada pot is not.


In your previous post, Badass, you mentioned still having hope for your friend. Everybody deserves chances. Which is not to say that those giving second chances should line up their credit cards, unlock the liquor cabinet, and given free reign.

It's like a child who grow sup being called stupid. They believe it, they become it.

I would not want to see our legal system go the way of the US. 3strikes your out leaves no room for individuality. And I know that I'm not like you. And your not like those other people on this forum. So why should you or I be tagged as being just like everybody else?

   

Good points all, Twila. But if a person is not held responsible for their actions (negative), they grow up believing thats all right too. To hell with rehabilitation! Prison should hurt! Just like the actions of the criminal hurts. Simplistic perhaps, yet many things are made out to be more complicated than they really are.

   

Well as guessed I have not been in prison, and damn proud of it.

Alot of good point brought up. But I think prison, should have 2 rolls,
1)Make the person never want to go back, ever
2)give the person a skill set, so they can be put back into socitey, proving it is appropriate to do so

Its too bad it is against the geneva convention to put civilians into a military style prison, Make them polish a galvinized trash can with their toothbrush, just for dinner

These asswhips that broke into my car and trashed it(over 4500 in damage), if they got caught, they would get nothing, and even if they went to jail, they would get out and do it again, for what a snort of coke or a few joints?I think the 3-strike method used in some of the states is great.

people in jail should be breaking rocks and digging ditches, until in that system deems them ready to be prepared for reintergration into society

Well, of lately, due to my cars, I really could care less for the rights of criminals.

just my next .02, and steam release

   

Myself I think there is too much emphasis on the rights of the convicted (notice I said convicted) criminals, and not enough on the rights of the victems... Victem impact statements was a good idea.. If not justice, at least they had the opportunity to let all know what price they payed as a victem..

   

I totally agree with you, your convicted, rights, what rights,
By going to prison you should loose the majority of your rights, its all
you can really take from some people

I just can't understand these human rights people, fighting for the rights of
people who could care less for your right to live your life, they maim, steal, vandalize, without the slightest whim in most cases, they wouldn't think twice of robbing these people, yet they fight for there rights??

I just dont get it, maybe im missing something, or they are

   

Well fortunatly we live in a country where your rights are protected even if you are a criminal (convicted) I think that corrections Canada should give all of thease convicts a mandatory trade, or career path. Drugs and all other contraband should be completly erased (somehow) When you go to jail you should be there to learn how to live in society, not how to score a little more and not get caught.

Maybe if you are convicted of theft for instance, military service might be an option instead of jail. This way you learn responsibilty and accountability instead of balming your problems on everyone else.

Just a thought......

   

I'm thinking chain gangs. Bring back chain gangs for minor offenders, major offenders can do their time in solitary confinement.

   

They still,have a version of chain gangs in the southern US states.. They do raod work, cleaning along the interstates and such..

   

Anyone know how that's working for them?

   

...sounds like rev/nonrev need a crew out their way to cut some grass, LMFUCKING SKULL OFF....

   

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