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Important Battles in Western Civilization

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Tman1 @ Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:45 pm

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
UofSaskatchewan UofSaskatchewan:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
kerfuffled kerfuffled:
The Battle of Pearl Harbour, hands down.
That was the begining of the new age in America. Its what got them into WWII and that pretty much changed the whole world.


Although i don't think it was for the better in the end...

I froget the battle, but its the one where canada KICKED ASS in world war two, lowest nuber of troops vs. highest number of germans on the most heavily defended beach, got the farthest in, took the fewest casualties...
Anyone got a name for it?


Err Dieppe? ALthoug I think Canadians took HEAVY causualties. Is this correct?



we did, the difference was:

Canada = heavy casualties

Rest of the allies = heavier casualties, or they came in after us and said that they won the battle for us. Whichever one applies to a certain country.


Yah thats it, I even think there was a mini series about it on CBC a long time ago. If your interested you could look that up.

   



ManifestDestiny @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:31 am

I think this topic should be brokrn down into centuries. It is too broad to say one battle. On that note I feel Stalingrad was the most important battle of the twentith century. With the battle of Midway a close second.

   



canadian1971 @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:46 am

$1:
On that note I feel Stalingrad was the most important battle of the twentith century.


Argueably....

Leningrad could be another...more human lives were lost in the siege of Leningrad than the combinded total for Britian and America.

$1:
I froget the battle, but its the one where canada KICKED ASS in world war two, lowest nuber of troops vs. highest number of germans on the most heavily defended beach, got the farthest in, took the fewest casualties...
Anyone got a name for it?


You can't mean Juno? Although Normandy could be considered for the 20th century too.

   



1964-D-Peace @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:00 am

I'd rather just name several important battles in Western civilizations since it's hard to consider one battle as being more important than another (although by century is a good option too).

I'd nominate the battle of the Plains of Abraham in 1759, the reasons being:

1 - it has something or other to do with Canada, which makes sense since this is CKA.

2 - this was a decisive battle that assured British dominance and eventually victory in Canada over French forces, which....

3 - ...Inevitably insured the future of anglophone Canada and the rest of the North American colonies.

4 - It heralded the conclusion of the French and Indian War, which was only the American slice of the greater Seven Years War (1756-1763) which, given the size, reach and complexity, can be considered the first true World War. (World War 0, perhaps?) That being said...

5 - ...Given the size and depth (and DEBT!) of the bloody conflict, the end of the Seven Years War promised to change the course of history for all countries involved. For example, though Britain would assert its dominance as sole remaining superpower, the heavy debt incurred would set in motion a number of very questionable economic decisions that would inevitably trigger the American Revolution. And the rest, as they say, is OUR history.... ^_^

   



GreatBriton @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:26 am

If this is a thread about the most important battles ever, then the Battle of Britain is the one that I choose.


In 1940, over the skies of Southern England, when most of the rest of Europe was under German control, the RAF fought against the Luftwaffe, and the RAF were outnumbered by about 4-1. But the Luftwaffe were defeated, probably because of the British attitude of fighting to the end and NEVER surrendering. I've heard about people standing in the streets and watching dogfights between British and German planes over their houses. It must have been a strange sight - and a scary one. Downed planes landed in fields, in the streets and on top of people's houses.

During the Battle of Britain, Britain (and the Empire - Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc) was fighting ALONE against the NAZIS. This was at a time that the rest of Europe was already overrun, and the Americans hadn't yet entered the war.

If Britain fell during the Battle of Britain, the Germans may have won the War.

But we defeated the Luftwaffe despite being outnumbered 4-1.

   



Arctic_Menace @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:40 am

The Battle of Vimy Ridge. 1917.

The day Canada became known as a nation. 8)

Juno Beach was also a sweet victory for Canada.

   



Constantinople @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:22 pm

I would have to second the Battle of Britain as being extremely important. The Plains of Abraham is as well.

   



Canadian_Mind @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:28 pm

There was also the whole war of 1812...

   



Constantinople @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:30 pm

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
There was also the whole war of 1812...


We're really just trying to concentrate on particular battles here. Do you have any specific ones in mind from that War?

   



Canadian_Mind @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:37 pm

TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
There was also the whole war of 1812...


We're really just trying to concentrate on particular battles here. Do you have any specific ones in mind from that War?


the one right befor we burned down the whitehouse. not really an important battle, but its something that Canadians can go, "Ha, look what we did, we burned down the white house, nana nana boo boo" and so-forth.

   



Zipperfish @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:57 pm

Couretsy of some good Canadian kids -- the Arrogant Worms:

The War of 1812

Oh, come back, proud Canadians
To before you had TV,
No hockey night in Canada,
There was no CBC (Oh, my God!).
In 1812, Madison was mad,
He was the president, you know
He thought he’d tell the British where they ought to go
He thought he’d invade Canada,
He thought that he was tough
Instead we went to Washington....
And burned down all his stuff!

And the White House burned, burned, burned,
And we’re the one’s that did it!
It burned, burned, burned,
While the president ran and cried.
It burned, burned, burned,
And things were very historical.
And the Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies
Waa waa waah!
In the War of 1812!

Us hillbillies from Kentucky,
Dressed in green and red,
Left home to fight in Canada,
But they returned home dead
It’s the only war the Yankees lost, except for Vietnam
And also the Alamo... and the Bay of... ham.
The loser was America,
The winner was ourselves,
So join right in and gloat about the War of 1812

So, if you go to Washington, its buildings clean and nice,
Bring a pack of matches, and we’ll burn the White House twice!

etc...

   



ManifestDestiny @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:12 pm

Canada did not burn down the White House! English troops that sailed from England did. Canada was not even a soveriegn country yet. Just like the USA did not win the French and Indian war we were not a country yet!

   



Constantinople @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:18 pm

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
There was also the whole war of 1812...


We're really just trying to concentrate on particular battles here. Do you have any specific ones in mind from that War?


the one right befor we burned down the whitehouse. not really an important battle, but its something that Canadians can go, "Ha, look what we did, we burned down the white house, nana nana boo boo" and so-forth.


So, let's try to stay on subject here and disregard counter-factual posts where all that one is seeking is a reaction. In my early days on this forum, I would post things like you just have. But now I see how pointless it is to flame, as you have just done. And NYCisHome, is right anyway- it was the British.

   



QBC @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:47 pm

The Battle of Waterloo on June 18, 1815. Finished Napoleon off.

   



flyman01 @ Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:19 pm

QBCguy QBCguy:
The Battle of Waterloo on June 18, 1815. Finished Napoleon off.


I second that. PDT_Armataz_01_40

   



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