IRAQ: The Mahdi Shiite Army is Surging, Too
george123 @ Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:17 am
Folks, the real solution is much easier. Break up the nations of Iraq and Afghanistan into their religeous and tribal groups and make each one their own nation by right. Then, there is no more squabling over who is running things, and no minority in each country to be oppressed or complain about being oppressed. There, problem solved.
Oh, wait, then they will whine about the inequality of resources, and will demand the other nations give them what is "rightly theirs". Then they will attack each other and start wars, both holy and mundane, and the region will destabilize anyway.
You see, the main problem at play in the entire middle east region is base human greed. You give the Kurds a Kurdistan in Iraq, Turkey will invade it and destroy it, or Iraqi forces, from Shiite or Sunni will invade and destroy it. None of the groups care about what they "need", only what they want.
It's like the little children who are each given a choclate bar by their mother. Both each have one, and they are both equal. Then one punches the other out and takes his brother's chocolate bar and eats it. When asked why he did it, as he had the same amount of candy as his brother and there was no reason to do it, he says, "well mom, now I have mine AND his".
That is the mentality we are dealing in the mid-east. A bunch of rude, immature little brats who want everything to be handed to them, and they throw violent temper tantrums if they don't get it. They want it all, and are not willing to work with the other groups in the region to make things good for everyone. Both the Shiites and Sunnis want to control all of Iraq, Turkey and Iran want to take the oil, the Kurds want a country, and the terrorists and other countries want the only group willing to stabilize the area to leave.
Really, the only group that has proven they can be trusted is the Kurds. The Americans rely on the Kurds to control the north and stabilize it, and they do it. The Kurds will not stab the Americans in the back, and are honest about their job they are doing. The Iraqis are not trust-worthy. If the Iraqis don't like what the Americans are doing, they will just turn on the Americans and form their own militia terrorist group. Even Iraqi soldiers who are working with the American forces will do this, just abandon their post and fuck off to kill inocent people and soldiers alike.
There is no easy way out, other than total anihalation, and that is generaly frouned upon in most cases. These people are uneducated, thick skulled, and brainwashed. They are greedy, violent and immature as well. Really, not too different than us, but at least we send our kids to school, live by the rule of law, and at least tollerate people who differ from ourselves, if not just accept them. We try to be civilised animals and try to advance from our superstitiousness into real learning, not stay ignorant and violent like the mid-east.
Scape @ Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:56 am
Losing The Peace
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For the first time, a real blueprint for peace in Iraq
The important point he makes in the interview is that in order for any meaningful peace to be achieved now requires acknowledgment of the emergence of a new order in Iraq that is now irreversible. The Kurds and the Shia are beginning to dominate the region and that will now dictate who the real players are now. That change will now transform the entire middle east and will have huge and quite possibly cataclysmic implications for nations such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, Egypt, Jordan and Syria.
It's like when you pull one rotten tooth when you have a mouth full of cavities. A perpetually unstable Iraq will undermine neighboring dictatorial systems and whatever stability and order they desperately cling in said systems will begin to disintegrate and as it does so they will clamp down even more brutally. This will spiral the cycle of violence and transform a local conflict into a regional one.
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The seeds of another 100 years of crisis are being sown, with the Middle East consigned to decades of turbulence and the persistence of unmitigated hatreds and grudges. The most serious issue that is emerging is the exacerbation of sectarian differences between Shia and Sunni. That is a profoundly dangerous issue for it affects not only Iraq but also Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon and the Gulf countries.
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This may drag the entire area into war or even the forced movement of people as fearful countries seek to "quarantine" or expel their Shia population.
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This may drag the entire area into war or even the forced movement of people as fearful countries seek to "quarantine" or expel their Shia population.
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A way has to be found for introducing Iran and Turkey into a new security structure for the Middle East that would take into account their legitimate concerns, fears and interests. It is far better that these countries are seen to be part of a stable order for the area rather than as outsiders who need to be confronted and challenged.