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The Kurdish Problem

   

Great, now Iran can cross over too. How long till Syria desides it must stop the Iranians? But the West are the agressors?

   

fuck it, the UN should give them recognition as a separte country right now. This very second, after all it will allow them to stabilze quicker. Then Turkey can take its complaints to the UN

   

For the most part up till now since the bombing of the mosques this has been a civil war between Shiite and Sunni both sides getting support from Saudi Whabbis, Iranian and Syrian contacts with the Kurds happy to keep quiet up north collecting oil revenue. Turkey has had enough problems with the Kurds on par with the Spanish and their problem with Basque separatists. The more stable the Kurds make the north the worse it becomes for Turkey and with all eyes on the civil war there will be nothing to stop the conflict from spreading.

   

I wonder, could you explain to me why the Kurds stabilising the north makes it worse for Turkey? I don't doubt you but I am a bit ignorant of the politics as it pertains to Kurds and Turks. Any link to an overveiw would be appreciated.

   

Here is a CNN article on the 12th

The PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party)

Council on foreign relations dossier on the PKK

Turkey Seeking CIA Help To Fight PKK

Athens Hosts Terrorist Training Camps

   

There is no civil war. You didn't listen to the Iraqi Ambassador to the US did you?

   

Talk about in denial.

   

Currently factions of the Kurds are apparently making terrorist raids into Turkey.....which is not helpful.

Turkey, Iran and Syria genuinely fear the formation of a greater Kurdistan which could result in all of them losing territory to it.....right or wrong.

   

Ok, so the Kurdish problem is more Turkish then Iraqi. However the premiss of my idea still holds. The Kurds can have a much smaller region, namely the section of Iraq they currently 'stabilize'. They will accept this as thier sovern state and will drop any claims they made to Turkey. In return Turkey will recognize the new country as will the EU and the UN. This should appease everyone except the Iraqis, but you cannot win them all. At any rate, by all accounts the Iraqi political structure is in no position to complain, in addition to this wasn't mass killings of Kurds one of the crimes Saddam was executed for? This solution, handled correctly will force the Iranians and Syria both to re asess thier northern flanks and might take some of the focus off of Iraqi, allowing for greater stablization inside the afore mentioned country. Of course the Kurds would have to stop any military activities inside Turkey proper. Seems a small price to pay to avoid an ever growing conflict. The possibility of either Syria or Iran 'coaxing' the Kurds into doing some of thier dirty work must be avoided, if at all possible.

   

Talk about uninformed.

   

Huge assumption. To say the situation is volatile is an understatement to be sure but you have to keep in mind there is centuries of bad blood and oppression by the Turks vs the Kurds and they will demand their pound of flesh one way or another. This is why the Turks are clamping down so hard on the Kurds to begin with. To assume that negotiations are even possible let alone going to be civil between the two nations is indeed a stretch. Kurdish oil wealth will be seen as a direct threat to Turkish sovereignty. So much so it would not be unimaginable for them to do another Cyprus on a grander scale. Any move they make will be noticed so they are making a lot of noise now to see how others will react. So far the regional powers have been very quite. This is not a good sign as that will only embolden more flamboyant displays that could easily spiral out of control with a simple misunderstanding by a unit commander in the heat of the moment.

   

It is precisly these reasons that legitamacy must be given. For the new sovern government will not wish to jeprodize both the oil revenue and their new nation. Putting it before the EU/UN and whomever else allows for those regional powers to speak without having to appear as choosing a side. Bad blood in this region of the world is a constant, there is no way to negotiate without someof it comming to the forefront. In the end the Kurds stand to gain too much by not adhering to the deal and the Turks get to have more points for their EU application. If however they choose to continue the fight then Turkey has all the excuse they need to occupy the region and administer all that oil wealth themselves, while the Kurds run deeper into the hills. Yes in the short term the Kurds can undoubtly cause havoc, but in doing so they abandon any hope of getting legitemacy and as such are left to the mercy of others yet again.

No, this is viable solution, one that satisfies all the different parties interests. You can be certain the Americans have already offered something similar to the Kurds for their efforts in the north as it is. This should be settled among the Europians, so as to take away any anti-American taint. The Turks will become the largest purchaser of Kurdish oil and the Kurds will have thier own homeland. All that must happen is the Kurds must renounce any claims they have to Turkish soil, and the Turks will be the first to recognize the nation of Kurdistan.

   

That's been going on for years and years. It's a respons to the Turks ethnic cleansing campaigns over the years.

   

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