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Photos of Saddam in underwear "break Geneva Convention.

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Donny_Brasco @ Sat May 21, 2005 5:57 pm

It has nothing to do with saddam and what he has done.

Violating the law makes the law trivial. What if you or someone you love gets captured during the next war and the enemy decides to violate his rights under the Geneva Convention?

They can point to this forum and your blatant disrespect for the laws that are in place to protect POWs or diplomats and say that they no longer apply.

And therefore we all lose out.

Respect the law for everyone, no matter who they are. The law does not care for individuals in specific circumstances. The point is that we are all protected by the Geneva Convention...

And you and Bush and GWB and the Brits are making it all trivial.

When your armed forces are being violated don't come here and complain.
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canucker @ Sat May 21, 2005 6:01 pm

Then blame the photographer, and the newspapers that published the pictures.

   



Donny_Brasco @ Sat May 21, 2005 7:17 pm

canucker canucker:
Then blame the photographer, and the newspapers that published the pictures.


I do.

And you all should condem them instead of making the Geneva Convention trivial.

If you are supporting violation of this convention then you are supporting the violation of it against your own people too.

   



canucker @ Sat May 21, 2005 7:20 pm

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
canucker canucker:
Then blame the photographer, and the newspapers that published the pictures.


I do.

And you all should condem them instead of making the Geneva Convention trivial.

If you are supporting violation of this convention then you are supporting the violation of it against your own people too.


Well I never said I didn't support the Geneva Convention. We have to abide by the rules. I just said that personally, I don't care to see the picture.

   



Donny_Brasco @ Sat May 21, 2005 7:26 pm

canucker canucker:
Boo hoo. I understand there are rules for a reason and they should be respected, but who really cares... :roll:


Really, you should care.

Because this could be you. Image

Of course, if you don't object to being treated like this obviously it doesn’t contravene the convention.

But I'm pretty sure you're the only one on this board who'd like the action here.

   



canucker @ Sat May 21, 2005 7:50 pm

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
But I'm pretty sure you're the only one on this board who'd like the action here.



Huh? :?

   



canucker @ Sat May 21, 2005 8:17 pm

canucker canucker:
Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
But I'm pretty sure you're the only one on this board who'd like the action here.



Huh? :?


Donny, I'm still waiting for you to clarify your quote for me?

   



kerfuffled @ Sat May 21, 2005 9:22 pm

oh?!...uhhuh???
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BeaverBill @ Sun May 22, 2005 3:45 am

$1:
And you all should condem them instead of making the Geneva Convention trivial.

If you are supporting violation of this convention then you are supporting the violation of it against your own people too


True. It's tough to argue against that point.

These days the Geneva Convention is abided to when it's convenient and referred to when the "other side" is "not complying" in essence to "excuse" similar actions committed. This "fast food McWar" has treaded up and down upon this convention time and time again, and only goes to reinforce that neither side is credible. Funny enough, you expect that the bad guys do not adhere to any principles set by just societies, it comes as no surprise, but you do expect that a just civilized society respects those accords as they enforce justice, since they are the "good guys" correcting the "bad guys". All this is to be remembered for the soon come Iran war or any other future war sure to come when these same leaders or powers start to appeal for (or more like demand) support. The civilized world looks on and shakes it's head.

   



twister @ Sun May 22, 2005 5:09 am

His spokesman said: “He has been briefed. He wants to get to the bottom of it.”

Best line from the article sums up Bush feeling's and Sadam...

Well here he goes tyranical despot leader.. to a new career as a Male underwear model... "Only in America" (said with a foriegn accent)
Wasn't it Martha Stewart who once said the only difference between all of us is a really great make over...LOL
Just trying to interject a little levity into the situation.
Is the geneva convention Important of course it is. especially when all co signatories are involved. Of course there still are some countries that don't abide by the ethics of the Geneva convention. By not signing.. or signing but not caring to implement protection.

Oh and Canucker.. dude.. More Cowbell!!!!!!

   



QBC @ Sun May 22, 2005 7:08 am

All I have to say is, Charge the photographer cause that dipshit actually thought people wanted to see Saddam in his ginch. What a moron, bet he works for FOX...... PDT_Armataz_01_05

   



Constantinople @ Sun May 22, 2005 12:20 pm

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
It has nothing to do with saddam and what he has done.

Violating the law makes the law trivial. What if you or someone you love gets captured during the next war and the enemy decides to violate his rights under the Geneva Convention?

They can point to this forum and your blatant disrespect for the laws that are in place to protect POWs or diplomats and say that they no longer apply.

And therefore we all lose out.

Respect the law for everyone, no matter who they are. The law does not care for individuals in specific circumstances. The point is that we are all protected by the Geneva Convention...
And you and Bush and GWB and the Brits are making it all trivial.

When your armed forces are being violated don't come here and complain.
.


Live in the real world, please. Any coalition troops taken prisoner by the enemy in Iraq would immediately be tortured (a torture far worse than naked picture-taking) and/or executed.


(By the way, Saddam is in Iraqi custody. Also, him being in underwear isn't against the Geneva Convention. Someone was being a peeping tom and should be dealt with accordingly like anyone caught taking pictures of someone in their undies.)

   



EyeBrock @ Sun May 22, 2005 12:39 pm

I can’t believe people are seeing this as an insult against Arabs and Islam?

When did Saddam become a poster boy for the Arab world and Islam?

If he is then Islam is in an even more shit state than I thought.

Saddam is a war criminal and was a brutal dictator who murdered thousands, caused three pointless wars that killed millions and deserves no respect or pity.

If it was Hitler photographed in his undies would the Europeans say that was a slur on them and Christianity?

Saddam is is just a Third World Hitler. He should be treated with no respect and ridiculed.

Good on the “SUN” for printing the pictures.

   



Donny_Brasco @ Sun May 22, 2005 1:49 pm

TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
Live in the real world, please. Any coalition troops taken prisoner by the enemy in Iraq would immediately be tortured (a torture far worse than naked picture-taking) and/or executed.


Thats the whole point. Allowing things like this will only make the other side feel they can do the same or worse. I guess you forgot all about this:

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Give it a rest, the coalition and the retard soldiers they employ are no better then (I'm being liberal here) any enemy Iraqi's.

Disrespecting the captured enemies in not only immoral, it is illegal. And it leads to having our friendly forces subject to the same and worse.

   



Constantinople @ Sun May 22, 2005 2:42 pm

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
Live in the real world, please. Any coalition troops taken prisoner by the enemy in Iraq would immediately be tortured (a torture far worse than naked picture-taking) and/or executed.


Thats the whole point. Allowing things like this will only make the other side feel they can do the same or worse. I guess you forgot all about this:

Image
Give it a rest, the coalition and the retard soldiers they employ are no better then (I'm being liberal here) any enemy Iraqi's.

Disrespecting the captured enemies in not only immoral, it is illegal. And it leads to having our friendly forces subject to the same and worse.


You have no clue- you know very well my response was to you saying that we are all protected by the Geneva Conventions. That's total BS. You think those insurgents give a damn about Geneva Conventions when they mow down 20 children to get at our convoys? You think they'd think twice about shooting prisoners? They aren't going to take any military prisoners- simple as that.

As for the retard soldiers remark- that was pretty pathetic.

P.S. The Iraqis holding Saddam did not violate the Geneva Conventions. He was in his underwear- some jackass snuck a picture of it- and then they sold it for the money. Simple as that. It's against the Geneva Conventions for Saddam to walk around in his panties in his cell?

   



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