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Constantinople @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:02 am
Godz46 Godz46:
$1:
9/11 is, in my opinion, very similar. I think (And this is probably the conspirator in me) that Bush was behind the whole thing (Ok, not Bush personally, but whoever is pulling his strings) so that he could, A, scare the populace into buying usless safty gear , B, the funding of American defence corporations of which he is a puppet, and C to support an invasion of Afganistan which he could then use to invade Iraq. Whoever is pulling his strings is rather clever.
I see America bombed itself. Gotcha.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go to the dentist to take out the fillings in my teeth so that the CIA won't be able to track my movement.
lmao
Scape @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:24 am
Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:
Bush may be the epitome of a piss-poor politician (which is weird, considering he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth), but he is NOT Hitler. Classifying someone as "Hitler" is often a tactic used by those who need to justify an attack that is not altogether justified. I hope this has cleared something up for you, or at least encouraged you to change your tactics a little.
Ermächtigungsgesetz
Question: did Hitler in 1933 seem to be the evil madman to the people that we now know him now to be? What qualified Hitler to be a madman, the death of millions or the intent of the death of millions? Bush/GOP/PNAC intend to reshape the world and they know and fully admit to the fact that many will die are they not in the same league? Put aside altruistic intent here for a moment. Does not the paths dangerously parallel here and therefore such comparisons have merit?
The Hoser @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:16 am
Godz46 Godz46:
$1:
9/11 is, in my opinion, very similar. I think (And this is probably the conspirator in me) that Bush was behind the whole thing (Ok, not Bush personally, but whoever is pulling his strings) so that he could, A, scare the populace into buying usless safty gear , B, the funding of American defence corporations of which he is a puppet, and C to support an invasion of Afganistan which he could then use to invade Iraq. Whoever is pulling his strings is rather clever.
I see America bombed itself. Gotcha.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go to the dentist to take out the fillings in my teeth so that the CIA won't be able to track my movement.
Nope. Bush bombed America, well, Bush's puppeteer.
Scape @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:19 am
Yes, and the Reichstag fire was done by Communists which were also labeled terrorists at the time as well. And the Nazi's were also famous for walking out of votes and meetings until they were able to intimidate/bribe the result they wanted. Very dangerous parallels going on. Think Jeff Gannon is going to be a journalist and ask the tough questions?
Constantinople @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:29 am
I'm about as conservative as they get, and I know I wouldn't go for some American Nazi takeover thingy. Besides, Germany didn't allow their citizens to have firearms when the Nazis came to power. So, if anyone is to be held in suspicion, it's not the GOP but rather pansy-ass liberals who seek to cancel the 2nd Amendment.
Just thought I'd toss that out there since everyone else seems to be throwing out flimsy connections between 2005 America and 1930's Germany.
PORK @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:34 am
Godz46 Godz46:
$1:
Nope. Bush bombed America, well, Bush's puppeteer.
Right...now quick... to the nearest MRI center to make sure the FBI did'nt install any mind controll device in your skull while you were sleeping...time's a factor bro...GO GO GO!!!!
LOL nearest MRI..... That's a good one.
Scape @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:10 pm
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
I'm about as conservative as they get, and I know I wouldn't go for some American Nazi takeover thingy.
The primary backers of the Nazi's were the Krupp Brothers. You don't get any more conservative than them in Germany they were the Corporate Bordello the Nazi's were in bed with.
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
Besides, Germany didn't allow their citizens to have firearms when the Nazis came to power. So, if anyone is to be held in suspicion, it's not the GOP but rather pansy-ass liberals who seek to cancel the 2nd Amendment.
1st show me where 2nd amendment is going to be repealed on the Democratic platform. 2nd Show me where the GOP will defend the 2nd amendment when they are pushing (and will pass)this. 3rd explain how citizens owning a gun will hold a police state in check when the current laws can't do that? Just thought I'd toss that out there since everyone else seems to be throwing out flimsy connections between gun control and liberal America.
Patrick_Ross @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:21 pm
Scape Scape:
Question: did Hitler in 1933 seem to be the evil madman to the people that we now know him now to be? What qualified Hitler to be a madman, the death of millions or the intent of the death of millions? Bush/GOP/PNAC intend to reshape the world and they know and fully admit to the fact that many will die are they not in the same league? Put aside altruistic intent here for a moment. Does not the paths dangerously parallel here and therefore such comparisons have merit?
I'm sorry, has George W. Bush been rounding up Jews and marching them to ovens without any of us knowing about it?
Let's make one thing crystal clear: Hitler came to power on a fascist (and, as such, notably racist) platform. He had cast his finger at the Jews long before coming to power, and as such, it was to be expected that something like the Holocaust would have occured with him in power.
There are a number of similarities between the the enabling act and the patriot act, but ulimately few between the two individuals.
Hitler sought to purify and empower the German people with focus on race. George Bush is seeking to further empower the power elite of the United States on a global scale. These two things are not as similar as they seem.
Constantinople @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:34 pm
Scape Scape:
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
I'm about as conservative as they get, and I know I wouldn't go for some American Nazi takeover thingy.
The primary backers of the Nazi's were the Krupp Brothers. You don't get any more conservative than them in Germany they were the Corporate Bordello the Nazi's were in bed with.
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
Besides, Germany didn't allow their citizens to have firearms when the Nazis came to power. So, if anyone is to be held in suspicion, it's not the GOP but rather pansy-ass liberals who seek to cancel the 2nd Amendment.
1st show me where 2nd amendment is going to be repealed on the Democratic platform. 2nd Show me where the GOP will defend the 2nd amendment when they are pushing (and will pass)this. 3rd explain how citizens owning a gun will hold a police state in check when the current laws can't do that? Just thought I'd toss that out there since everyone else seems to be throwing out flimsy connections between gun control and liberal America.So the U.N. is our tool for global supremacy, eh? As for that Hindu link, I really don't know what you were trying to relate it to in the topic at hand.
As for the Krupp thingy, obviously you don't understand what I meant. A staunch conservative, such as myself, would never go for the kinda shit that Nazi Germany did.
Then again, I wouldn't doubt if a war against Islam erupted. Call us 12th Century Clairvaux Europe, but never 1930's Nazi Germany.
Scape @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:23 pm
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
So the U.N. is our tool for global supremacy, eh? As for that Hindu link, I really don't know what you were trying to relate it to in the topic at hand.
$1:
Fewer than 10% of the people prosecuted for terrorism in the United States since the September 11 attacks were convicted of crimes related to that ornational security, according to a study conducted by the Washington Post.
Of those 39 people, few had any connection to al-Qaida while the remaining 90% were acquitted or convicted of lesser crimes such as immigration violations or making false statements, the study shows.
Of those 39 people, few had any connection to al-Qaida while the remaining 90% were acquitted or convicted of lesser crimes such as immigration violations or making false statements, the study shows.
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
As for the Krupp thingy, obviously you don't understand what I meant. A staunch conservative, such as myself, would never go for the kinda shit that Nazi Germany did.
Conservative There are many types. I will not presume your definition. I will say that the popular "Compassionate conservatism" Has many dangerious parallels to Nazi tactics as it involves faith based initiatives that have faith serving the state but worse it elevates certain religions over others in a system that is supposed to hold all religions as equal. As a divided house it is easier to coerce and control and thus the most powerful religions (Catholic) will by defacto speak for all religion and it serves the GOP.
14 defining characteristics of Fascism(video)
Written
They Thought They Were Free
Lastly, and most importantly, the conservative movement is a movement that is the most easily manipulated into Serfdom. Why? Because of the basic fear of change inherent in conservatism. Freedoms is routinely scarified to a 'higher authority' rather than due process. This shortcut is the road to Fascism.
Constantinople @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:29 pm
Scape Scape:
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
So the U.N. is our tool for global supremacy, eh? As for that Hindu link, I really don't know what you were trying to relate it to in the topic at hand.
$1:
Fewer than 10% of the people prosecuted for terrorism in the United States since the September 11 attacks were convicted of crimes related to that ornational security, according to a study conducted by the Washington Post.
Of those 39 people, few had any connection to al-Qaida while the remaining 90% were acquitted or convicted of lesser crimes such as immigration violations or making false statements, the study shows.
Of those 39 people, few had any connection to al-Qaida while the remaining 90% were acquitted or convicted of lesser crimes such as immigration violations or making false statements, the study shows.
TheUSofA1776 TheUSofA1776:
As for the Krupp thingy, obviously you don't understand what I meant. A staunch conservative, such as myself, would never go for the kinda shit that Nazi Germany did.
Conservative There are many types. I will not presume your definition. I will say that the popular "Compassionate conservatism" Has many dangerious parallels to Nazi tactics as it involves faith based initiatives that have faith serving the state but worse it elevates certain religions over others in a system that is supposed to hold all religions as equal. As a divided house it is easier to coerce and control and thus the most powerful religions (Catholic) will by defacto speak for all religion and it serves the GOP.
14 defining characteristics of Fascism(video)
Written
They Thought They Were Free
Lastly, and most importantly, the conservative movement is a movement that is the most easily manipulated into Serfdom. Why? Because of the basic fear of change inherent in conservatism. Freedoms is routinely scarified to a 'higher authority' rather than due process. This shortcut is the road to Fascism.
Sorry, Catholicism is not the strongest church in the U.S. I'm even a Roman Catholic and will admit this.
And I'm not too worried about a religious-conservative-fascist mess erupting due to the fact that religious symbols and relics are being taken down all over the country.
Gee, George W. Bush wins another election, family values are hyped up, the Christian-right is hyped up, and all of a sudden everyone thinks we're on the road to fascism.
What will the critics be saying when Hilary Clinton is elected in 2008?
(I know I will probably be saying Hitler
)
Patrick_Ross @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:31 pm
I'm familiar with the work of professor Brit. The problem with this is is that if you can identify as many as four of these characteristics, in the view of prof. Brit, it is time to act.
Furthermore, I don't know what happened to the "Cult of Blood and Soil" that professor Brit described. They didn't mention it in this video.
A very valid point, well taken, but as before, it is way over the top.
Tman1 @ Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:38 pm
Protestant is the most dominante church isnt it?
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