Will Spain stand and be counted?
karra @ Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:04 pm
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Missionaries aren't good for business.
Quite right, but cannibals like to have them for supper.
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karra @ Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:11 pm
Yes indeed, a stick of dynamite in every pot - 10-20 kgs found on the high-speed line today.
And they thought voting avec the yellow stripe would keep them safe.
Rev_Blair @ Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:10 pm
No, they thought that they shouldn't vote for a government that was following failed policies, lying about it, and putting them further in harm's way.
karra @ Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:36 pm
The fools gave them an inch. . . .
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Unless troops withdrawn from Afghanistan, Iraq
Canadian Press Monday, April 05, 2004
MADRID, Spain (AP) -- A group claiming responsibility for the Madrid bombings sent a fax to a newspaper on the weekend warning it would turn Spain "into an inferno" unless the country halted its support for the United States and withdrew its troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, the daily said Monday.
The fax, a handwritten letter in Arabic, was received by the daily ABC on Saturday evening, just hours before five terror suspects blew themselves up in an apartment in Leganes, south of Madrid, to avoid police capture.
The government believes the suicide blast killed two of the alleged ringleaders of last month's Madrid train bombings, including one known as the Tunisian, and three other terror suspects, leaving the core of the terror group either dead or in jail.
Two or three suspects may have escaped before the blast, which also killed a special forces officer and wounded 15 other policeman.
The letter to ABC was signed by Abu Dujana Al Afgani, Ansar Group, al-Qaida in Europe, the same person who claimed responsibility for the March 11 bombings in a video found outside a Madrid mosque two days after the attacks.
"Given that the Spanish state has continued with its injustices and aggressions against Muslims by sending fresh troops to Iraq and its intention to send more soldiers to Afghanistan," the letter gave a deadline of Sunday, April 4, to fulfill its demands of ending support for the United States and withdrawing troops from both countries.
"If these demands are not met, we will declare war on you and we swear by Allah the highest and most sublime that we will convert your country into an inferno and your blood will flow like rivers," the letter added.
In the letter, the group said that it had showed its force with the "blessed attacks of March 11" and the planting of a bomb along the high-speed railway line linking Madrid and Seville last week, which did not explode.
ABC cited unidentified sources in Spain's National Intelligence Center as saying the letter's authenticity appeared "fairly credible." It said the language used in the letter was similar to that used in the video.
The intelligence agency has linked the Ansar group to the Tunisian ringleader killed in the suicide blast Saturday evening.
Ansar al-Islam is an Islamic extremist guerrilla group blamed for terrorist strikes in Iraq, Jordan, Turkey and Morocco.
Canadian Press Monday, April 05, 2004
MADRID, Spain (AP) -- A group claiming responsibility for the Madrid bombings sent a fax to a newspaper on the weekend warning it would turn Spain "into an inferno" unless the country halted its support for the United States and withdrew its troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, the daily said Monday.
The fax, a handwritten letter in Arabic, was received by the daily ABC on Saturday evening, just hours before five terror suspects blew themselves up in an apartment in Leganes, south of Madrid, to avoid police capture.
The government believes the suicide blast killed two of the alleged ringleaders of last month's Madrid train bombings, including one known as the Tunisian, and three other terror suspects, leaving the core of the terror group either dead or in jail.
Two or three suspects may have escaped before the blast, which also killed a special forces officer and wounded 15 other policeman.
The letter to ABC was signed by Abu Dujana Al Afgani, Ansar Group, al-Qaida in Europe, the same person who claimed responsibility for the March 11 bombings in a video found outside a Madrid mosque two days after the attacks.
"Given that the Spanish state has continued with its injustices and aggressions against Muslims by sending fresh troops to Iraq and its intention to send more soldiers to Afghanistan," the letter gave a deadline of Sunday, April 4, to fulfill its demands of ending support for the United States and withdrawing troops from both countries.
"If these demands are not met, we will declare war on you and we swear by Allah the highest and most sublime that we will convert your country into an inferno and your blood will flow like rivers," the letter added.
In the letter, the group said that it had showed its force with the "blessed attacks of March 11" and the planting of a bomb along the high-speed railway line linking Madrid and Seville last week, which did not explode.
ABC cited unidentified sources in Spain's National Intelligence Center as saying the letter's authenticity appeared "fairly credible." It said the language used in the letter was similar to that used in the video.
The intelligence agency has linked the Ansar group to the Tunisian ringleader killed in the suicide blast Saturday evening.
Ansar al-Islam is an Islamic extremist guerrilla group blamed for terrorist strikes in Iraq, Jordan, Turkey and Morocco.
Rev_Blair @ Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:48 pm
Umm, could it be that the terrorists realised that they weren't really being given an inch; that the new government wasn't backing down from terrorism, just the support of an illegal war?
How would things have been different if the right-wing losers were re-elected? They wouldn't. The same fax by the same people would have been received.
karra @ Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:05 pm
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Umm, could it be that the terrorists realised that they weren't really being given an inch; that the new government wasn't backing down from terrorism, just the support of an illegal war?
errr, do ya think it just might have been the result of people voting with their emotions?
umm, do ya think the new government may have made a mistake thinking that if they 'promised' the terrorists they would recall their troops, they would be spared more carnage?
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How would things have been different if the right-wing losers were re-elected? They wouldn't.
uhh, do you think most of us will ever know? How is it you do?
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The same fax by the same people would have been received.
Interesting statement that I'm sure only you can decipher - or does it have something to do with 'pre-emptive?'
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othello @ Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:29 pm
karra karra:
errr, do ya think it just might have been the result of people voting with their emotions?
umm, do ya think the new government may have made a mistake thinking that if they 'promised' the terrorists they would recall their troops, they would be spared more carnage?
umm, do ya think the new government may have made a mistake thinking that if they 'promised' the terrorists they would recall their troops, they would be spared more carnage?
Or, it could have been a result of people voting against a party that was trying to mislead them.
Rev_Blair @ Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:41 am
They also didn't promise the terrorists anything. That's an extremely misleading statement. They were against the war and Spain's participation, as were 90% of the the Spanish people, from the beginning, precisely because it had othing to do with terrorism.
They also said that they'd keep troops there if the UN took over.
karra @ Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:41 pm
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Or, it could have been a result of people voting against a party that was trying to mislead them.
Yup - that's gotta be it, for sure. Bombings the day before the national election and the people vote against a party that 'misled' them.
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They also didn't promise the terrorists anything.
Do you understand what this (') and (') mean?
AdamNF @ Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:59 pm
So what if the people changed goverments becasue of the attacks. They blame the goverment for the attack so they got a new goverment. its called democracy
Robair @ Sun May 02, 2004 6:54 pm
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... atero_iraq
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MADRID, Spain - Spain's prime minister said Sunday he hopes the deteriorating situation in Iraq will serve as a warning to countries against using preemptive wars in the future.
"The mission in Iraq, which is showing itself every day to be a failure, should serve as a lesson to the international community: preemptive wars, never again; violations of international law, never again," Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said.
Welcome to the 'school of hard knocks', lesson learned, I guess.
"The mission in Iraq, which is showing itself every day to be a failure, should serve as a lesson to the international community: preemptive wars, never again; violations of international law, never again," Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said.
Pulling out of Iraq after the train bombing may be a mistake, but it is dwarfed by the huge mistake of joining the coalition in the first place...