Canada Kicks Ass
Mission to Pluto is a go!

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Yogi @ Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:00 pm

Do you really think that none of our tax $$ are going towards 'space exploration'? ROTFL

   



Wullu @ Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:06 pm

Yogi Yogi:
Do you really think that none of our tax $$ are going towards 'space exploration'? ROTFL


Of course I know some of my tax dollars go to the Canadian Space Agency and well spent dollars they are. What I asked is why you are so vehmently opposed to a project that cost you nothing?
You so hate the fact that public money is spent on the space program? Ok, well shut off your computer and toss it, get rid of your cable/sat tv box, get an old rotary phone. If you have a cell phone toss that as well. Everyone of these items and hundreds of thousands of others can be directly traced back to the work NASA and the other space agencys around the world done.

   



Yogi @ Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:06 pm

If taxx $$ are being spent on ANYTHING then MY money is being spent on it!For I too pay taxes.
As far as the 'technology' that you mention, that too is as I stated. Put 'it' in a bottle and sell 'it'. If I want 'it' then I have the choice of spending MY money on 'it' The most simple of concepts!
Back to my original question, which you have already given your answer to. Absolutely nothing is to be gained by mankind if there is or is not water on mars or if Pluto is in fact 'big enough' to qualify for 'planet status'!My position is that mankind does everything half-assed. Starts and then finishes nothing! The money would be much better spent fixing what we have so badly fucked up first and then move onto something else, as funds permitted. Any other way should be financed by the private sector and again if they strike it rich; put 'it in a bottle and sell it to those who CHOOSE to buy 'it'! There is not a hope in hell that anyone can justify spending billions in public funds on such questionable results.

   



Wullu @ Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:14 pm

Yogi Yogi:
If taxx $$ are being spent on ANYTHING then MY money is being spent on it!For I too pay taxes.
As far as the 'technology' that you mention, that too is as I stated. Put 'it' in a bottle and sell 'it'. If I want 'it' then I have the choice of spending MY money on 'it' The most simple of concepts!
Back to my original question, which you have already given your answer to. Absolutely nothing is to be gained by mankind if there is or is not water on mars or if Pluto is in fact 'big enough' to qualify for 'planet status'!My position is that mankind does everything half-assed. Starts and then finishes nothing! The money would be much better spent fixing what we have so badly fucked up first and then move onto something else, as funds permitted. Any other way should be financed by the private sector and again if they strike it rich; put 'it in a bottle and sell it to those who CHOOSE to buy 'it'! There is not a hope in hell that anyone can justify spending billions in public funds on such questionable results.


I need a smiley for hitting your head against a brick wall.

ALL these things you want to put in a bottle and sell are as a DIRECT result of taxpayer dollars and have earned Trillions of dollars for the companys and employees that made use of the technology. This is an incredibly useful use of taxpayer dollars. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

   



797 @ Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:31 pm

$1:
I need a smiley for hitting your head against a brick wall.


lol... I don't have a smiley,will a picture do? :lol:

   



Yogi @ Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:35 pm

Wullu Wullu:
Yogi Yogi:
If taxx $$ are being spent on ANYTHING then MY money is being spent on it!For I too pay taxes.
As far as the 'technology' that you mention, that too is as I stated. Put 'it' in a bottle and sell 'it'. If I want 'it' then I have the choice of spending MY money on 'it' The most simple of concepts!
Back to my original question, which you have already given your answer to. Absolutely nothing is to be gained by mankind if there is or is not water on mars or if Pluto is in fact 'big enough' to qualify for 'planet status'!My position is that mankind does everything half-assed. Starts and then finishes nothing! The money would be much better spent fixing what we have so badly fucked up first and then move onto something else, as funds permitted. Any other way should be financed by the private sector and again if they strike it rich; put 'it in a bottle and sell it to those who CHOOSE to buy 'it'! There is not a hope in hell that anyone can justify spending billions in public funds on such questionable results.


I need a smiley for hitting your head against a brick wall.

ALL these things you want to put in a bottle and sell are as a DIRECT result of taxpayer dollars and have earned Trillions of dollars for the companys and employees that made use of the technology. This is an incredibly useful use of taxpayer dollars. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

The WHOLE gist of this topic was; Why are we spendin tax$$$ on trying to find out ANYTHING about Pluto or Mars Or any other wannabe planet! There is absolutely 0$$ return on investment! Spend the money fixing what we have already fucked up before its to late and we won't feel the need to 'look for another place to live'! If there was then the 'private sector 'would be all over it like 'white on rice'!Branson would have his logo on the rockets and Shell Oil would be selling advertising space.
I am not against technology but really, 'who gives a rats ass about is there water on mars or is pluto bigger than the wart on my...chin' [bonk] ?

   



PluggyRug @ Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:02 pm

$1:
mars or is pluto bigger than the wart on my...chin'


Well there we have it, one of the largest inferiority complexes on this forum.

   



Wullu @ Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:04 pm

Actually THIS is the whole jist of this thread :

$1:
Mission to Pluto is a go!
Well, the New Horizons probe is off to Pluto. It will be the fasted vehicle yet made by man and it is scheduled to arrive around 2015. Pluto is the last planet that has not been explored and if all goes well it will explore the region beyond pluto. When it arrives it will take signals around 4 hours to reach Earth, while traveling at the speed of light. It is a nuclear powered craft, relying on decaying plutonium to get its energy since solar pannels get rather useless much beyond Mars. Anyone else hear about this mission? There is an article about it in a recent eddtion of Popular science, I think it is the January one but it may have been December

   



dgthe3 @ Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:44 pm

We don't know what we will gain by exploring space, that's the point. It is human nature to explore and to discover. What will ge gain? The apollo missions to the moon help spur the micro-electronics revolution which has indeed helped our society. Who knows what this mission or others to Mars, or anything else that NASA, the CSA, ESA, and so on will add to society Eventually we will visit other stars. Eventually we will find life beyond Earth. Eventually we will find riches on other planets and asteroids. Eventually we will be able to exist peacefully with eachother. I have no idea when it will happen but it will. If it were not for our ancient ancestors and their desire to explore, we would all still be living in Africa and civilization would not exist. Did they know how it would benifit them? no. Did the others that stayed behind have to pay? yes. Some of them died and starved to death. Are you going to be in such a situation by paying a little bit of tax that goes to fund a space mission? I don't think so.

Space is not only queerer than we think, but queerer than we can even imagine. We need to learn more. And space cannot be explored by individuals, but indeed by nations and the world as a whole. Poverty and world hunger can be reduced and eliminated with efforts on a much smaller scale and indeed require efforts on the smaller scale. And finally, if you want to pay less in taxes, move somewhere else

   



PluggyRug @ Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:11 pm

dgthe3 dgthe3:
We don't know what we will gain by exploring space, that's the point. It is human nature to explore and to discover. What will ge gain? The apollo missions to the moon help spur the micro-electronics revolution which has indeed helped our society. Who knows what this mission or others to Mars, or anything else that NASA, the CSA, ESA, and so on will add to society Eventually we will visit other stars. Eventually we will find life beyond Earth. Eventually we will find riches on other planets and asteroids. Eventually we will be able to exist peacefully with eachother. I have no idea when it will happen but it will. If it were not for our ancient ancestors and their desire to explore, we would all still be living in Africa and civilization would not exist. Did they know how it would benifit them? no. Did the others that stayed behind have to pay? yes. Some of them died and starved to death. Are you going to be in such a situation by paying a little bit of tax that goes to fund a space mission? I don't think so.

Space is not only queerer than we think, but queerer than we can even imagine. We need to learn more. And space cannot be explored by individuals, but indeed by nations and the world as a whole. Poverty and world hunger can be reduced and eliminated with efforts on a much smaller scale and indeed require efforts on the smaller scale. And finally, if you want to pay less in taxes, move somewhere else


Trying to convince Golam of the benefits is like trying to plait smoke. 8O

He aint gonna move Canada is too good. :wink:

   



Ripcat @ Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:24 pm

Yogi Yogi:
The WHOLE gist of this topic was; Why are we spendin tax$$$ on trying to find out ANYTHING about Pluto or Mars Or any other wannabe planet! There is absolutely 0$$ return on investment!

We don't know this because we have not properly explored Pluto or any other wannabe planet. If humanity took your approach we'd all still be living in the heart of Africa.

Yogi Yogi:
Spend the money fixing what we have already fucked up before its to late and we won't feel the need to 'look for another place to live'! If there was then the 'private sector 'would be all over it like 'white on rice'!Branson would have his logo on the rockets and Shell Oil would be selling advertising space.


The moon has high concentrations of the isotope Helium-3 which can be used to generate electricity through nuclear fusion with relative little radioactive waste. China and Russia are both working toward plans to mine the moon for this. America wants to build a base on the moon. These endeavors will eventually lead to more corporations investing in moon mining and space exploration. This will help with the energy crisis we are now facing here on planet Earth. The snowball is just starting to roll.

Researchers and space enthusiasts see helium-3 as the perfect fuel source.
Lunar Helium-3 as an Energy Source in a nutshell

   



797 @ Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:44 pm

Wullu Wullu:
Yogi Yogi:
If taxx $$ are being spent on ANYTHING then MY money is being spent on it!For I too pay taxes.
As far as the 'technology' that you mention, that too is as I stated. Put 'it' in a bottle and sell 'it'. If I want 'it' then I have the choice of spending MY money on 'it' The most simple of concepts!
Back to my original question, which you have already given your answer to. Absolutely nothing is to be gained by mankind if there is or is not water on mars or if Pluto is in fact 'big enough' to qualify for 'planet status'!My position is that mankind does everything half-assed. Starts and then finishes nothing! The money would be much better spent fixing what we have so badly fucked up first and then move onto something else, as funds permitted. Any other way should be financed by the private sector and again if they strike it rich; put 'it in a bottle and sell it to those who CHOOSE to buy 'it'! There is not a hope in hell that anyone can justify spending billions in public funds on such questionable results.


I need a smiley for hitting your head against a brick wall.



A bit late but...

   



Wullu @ Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:23 am

LOL!! Cheers!

   



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