Terri Schiavo has passed on
RUEZ @ Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:10 pm
Hoser my reply was not directed at you but since you replied I shall explain. Godz likes to blame Liberals for everything. If it had been a liberal who said the earth was round he would say it's flat. His bible is foxnews. He's so full of hate that he can't open his mouth without disparaging Canada or "liberals". He escaped to the "Land of the Free", yet he continues to come here to educate us overtaxed, dog sled riding, free health care using, Canucks. 
HonoraryHoser @ Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:22 pm
RUEZ RUEZ:
Hoser my reply was not directed at you but since you replied I shall explain. Godz likes to blame Liberals for everything. If it had been a liberal who said the earth was round he would say it's flat. His bible is foxnews. He's so full of hate that he can't open his mouth without disparaging Canada or "liberals". He escaped to the "Land of the Free", yet he continues to come here to educate us overtaxed, dog sled riding, free health care using, Canucks.
I was unaware of any history there. However, in his defense, I can't say I'm very fond of liberals and I watch Fox News when I get the chance. On the other side of that coin, I like Canada. That's why I'm here. What I dislike is when one bashes another simply because of their origin, which is what I thought was going on here. Apparently I was mistaken.
I'm American and proud of it. Doesn't mean I don't like Canada, Canadians, or can't allow a Canadian to be proud of his country. Infact, I plan on moving to BC one day. All I ask from anyone is the same in return. Both of our countries have their good and bad points, and sadly all too often people are eager to point out the bad ones and ignore the good. There's no need for this when this continent has so much to offer on both sides of the 49th. I didn't mean to use RUEZ as an example, and I apologize if RUEZ takes it that way. Just like I said in the introduction forum, I'm a yankee, don't hold it against me.
RUEZ @ Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:28 pm
Nothin wrong with being from the US hoser, you are who you are. Whether Godz likes liberals or not, it's rediculous to blame liberals for her death. But like I said Godz needs someone to hate, and it's usually Canada, and liberals. 
HonoraryHoser @ Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:32 pm
RUEZ RUEZ:
Nothin wrong with being from the US hoser, you are who you are. Whether Godz likes liberals or not, it's rediculous to blame liberals for her death. But like I said Godz needs someone to hate, and it's usually Canada, and liberals.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on where blame should lie.
RUEZ @ Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:39 pm
HonoraryHoser HonoraryHoser:
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on where blame should lie.
So you agree with him, I don't understand that because I believe allowing her to die was the right thing to do, but I consider myself a Conservative. So apparently it wasn't just liberals who think that way.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:33 am
In all honesty, I think it's none of any of our business about the whole issue with her. While it's sad, and the media basically rammed it down our throat to care about this issue. To think that "liberals" wanted her dead is not honest. All I heard of from the left side of the issue was mainly points that it should be up to the state and that the federal government shouldn't be involved in this issue. Take it as you will, but I don't think that is siding on the side of death. The judge, from what I remember hearing on Tv, who had the final say and was the person who they made a big point about, was a republican.
I find it utterly ridiculous for the people who talk of "erring on the side of life" to accuse the liberal-minded people of wanting this lady dead, when in fact people who they don't consider liberal, and who could be considered on their side, such as Bush, have passed laws against life. I think the sad thing is the fact that most people couldn't see, or didn't want to even question the republican motives in this, as to maybe they aren't the great people they look to be, and maybe they are just POLITICIANS, like the "demoncrats."
$1:
While governor of Texas, Bush signed into law the Advance Directive Act which authorizes physicians to refuse to honor a patient's advance directive, or the wishes of a patient's guardian, and discontinue life-sustaining medical care, including ventilators and feeding tubes. The Act was used March 15, 2005, to remove 6-month-old Sun Hudson from a ventilator at Texas Children's Hospital, his parents' wishes to the contrary notwithstanding. Hudson died is his mother's arms moments later.
Under the Act, a physician, with the approval of an ethics committee, may override an advance directive or a parent's wishes in so-called “futility cases” where continued treatment is not deemed medically beneficial. In the case of Terri Schiavo, the Florida state courts have consistently ruled that there is overwhelming medical evidence that she is in a permanent or persistent vegetative state, from which she cannot and will not ever recover. Mrs. Schiavo's cerebral cortex is gone, replaced by cerebral spinal fluid, an incurable condition. As explained by one Florida state court, “Unless an act of God, a true miracle, were to replace her brain, Theresa will always remain in an unconscious, reflexive state, totally dependent upon others to feed her and care for most of her private needs.”
Truly, Terri Schiavo's is a futility case. Under Texas law, enacted by the Texas legislature and signed by Governor Bush, regardless of whether Terri would want to live in such a condition, and regardless of her family's wishes, Terri's physicians could discontinue her life-sustaining treatment as non-beneficial. Apparently, President Bush thinks Texas’ Advance Directive Act is wrong and runs counter to the “culture of life” to which he so frequently refers. Luckily for President Bush, Terri Schiavo is in Florida, not Texas.
Under the Act, a physician, with the approval of an ethics committee, may override an advance directive or a parent's wishes in so-called “futility cases” where continued treatment is not deemed medically beneficial. In the case of Terri Schiavo, the Florida state courts have consistently ruled that there is overwhelming medical evidence that she is in a permanent or persistent vegetative state, from which she cannot and will not ever recover. Mrs. Schiavo's cerebral cortex is gone, replaced by cerebral spinal fluid, an incurable condition. As explained by one Florida state court, “Unless an act of God, a true miracle, were to replace her brain, Theresa will always remain in an unconscious, reflexive state, totally dependent upon others to feed her and care for most of her private needs.”
Truly, Terri Schiavo's is a futility case. Under Texas law, enacted by the Texas legislature and signed by Governor Bush, regardless of whether Terri would want to live in such a condition, and regardless of her family's wishes, Terri's physicians could discontinue her life-sustaining treatment as non-beneficial. Apparently, President Bush thinks Texas’ Advance Directive Act is wrong and runs counter to the “culture of life” to which he so frequently refers. Luckily for President Bush, Terri Schiavo is in Florida, not Texas.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Mar05/Sanders0322.htm
I think it would help all Americans if we held our politicians to a certain degree of mistrust, because "screw me over once, shame on you; screw me over twice, shame on me" or however it goes. Whether they are democrat or republican, we should not fall victim to blaming everything on one party and thinking it is okay for someone from a certain party to do something "because a democrat did it too."
Something I find odd is here we have republicans, who largely supported the Iraq war(some democrats too, and I'm not referring to the politicians, I'm talking about everyday people)talking about how we should be pro-life and help this poor women, and then on the other side talking of attacking countries, bombing Iraq, and basically ordering and supporting the killing of people overseas in a country which didn't threaten us and which it has come out that our intelligence was terrible before hand. Now, I'm not trying to go off the topic of the post, but before any of you label liberal-minded people as wanting the death of a women, examine your own party and their hypocrisy first.