Do you have an obligation to tell loved ones you are dying?
My own Dad got leukemia and was told he had eleven years to live, so he kept it from me for five years. I thought it was typically stoic of him. I do love him for his life long reserve; it's a quality. Not telling at all is quite different.
poquas @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:31 pm
Not telling anyone is more than selfish.
The survivors will all have to live with the question “why didn’t he or she tell me”. Depending on the relationship, that can cause a lot of damage down the road.
Whenever it's possible, death within a family shouldn't be a surprise.
ziggy @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:09 pm
Well if I found out I had terminal cancer or something I wouldnt tell my folks or family untill the end was close,I would get my affairs in order so as not to be a burden on them,if theres nothing they can do why worry them?
That's not selfish.
I think anyone who feels that way should look at their own selfisnness as to why they feel they have to know about a relatives private life.
Theres enough stress on a person who's going to die,they really shouldnt have to care what the relatives think.
At that point your not exactly #1 on the priority list,surviving one more day is.
One should. They don't necessarily need to right away, but should do so ASAP before it's too late.
Something regarding Death that happened to me that I promised a Dying person(my Dad)was in not keeping a Promise regarding Inheritance. All he really had was a $30k Life Insurance policy, but he wanted me and my Bro and Sis to get it, not my Mother.It was clearly to get back at my Mother who he was Separated from at the time. I didn't say a thing about it for many years after his Death, just thought my Bro and Sis deserved to know about it and why I said nothing. They agreed with me that they would have given it to her anyway.
ziggy @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:19 pm
I know from when my best friend and nieghbour died overnite I was glad he didnt tell me how bad it was.
He even told me he was glad he didnt because he didnt get patronized then because that's the last thing a terminal cancer victim needs to go through,keeping all the rellys on the up and up on their condition.
Bodah @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:43 pm
ziggy ziggy:
Well if I found out I had terminal cancer or something I wouldnt tell my folks or family untill the end was close,I would get my affairs in order so as not to be a burden on them,if theres nothing they can do why worry them?
That's not selfish.
I think anyone who feels that way should look at their own selfisnness as to why they feel they have to know about a relatives private life.
Theres enough stress on a person who's going to die,they really shouldnt have to care what the relatives think.
At that point your not exactly #1 on the priority list,surviving one more day is.
Exactly how I feel about it.
ziggy @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:46 pm
Bodah Bodah:
ziggy ziggy:
Well if I found out I had terminal cancer or something I wouldnt tell my folks or family untill the end was close,I would get my affairs in order so as not to be a burden on them,if theres nothing they can do why worry them?
That's not selfish.
I think anyone who feels that way should look at their own selfisnness as to why they feel they have to know about a relatives private life.
Theres enough stress on a person who's going to die,they really shouldnt have to care what the relatives think.
At that point your not exactly #1 on the priority list,surviving one more day is.
Exactly how I feel about it.
How about a positive rep point then?
Bodah @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:50 pm
ziggy ziggy:
Bodah Bodah:
ziggy ziggy:
Well if I found out I had terminal cancer or something I wouldnt tell my folks or family untill the end was close,I would get my affairs in order so as not to be a burden on them,if theres nothing they can do why worry them?
That's not selfish.
I think anyone who feels that way should look at their own selfisnness as to why they feel they have to know about a relatives private life.
Theres enough stress on a person who's going to die,they really shouldnt have to care what the relatives think.
At that point your not exactly #1 on the priority list,surviving one more day is.
Exactly how I feel about it.
Done
How about a positive rep point then?
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ziggy @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:54 pm
At 47 years old my best friends I grew up with are dieing off,I'm glad Im not told.
I'm still kicking! Every day above ground is a good day,I would rather my friends and relatives get that message from me.
poquas @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:55 pm
ziggy ziggy:
I know from when my best friend and nieghbour died overnite I was glad he didnt tell me how bad it was.
Telling your family is not the same as telling your “neighbour”. I don’t think a “neighbour” has anything invested like in a family relationship.
Neither does telling your family you’re dying require a “blow by blow” update about your aches and pains.
In fact your family knowing you’re dying shouldn’t be any more of a burden on anyone who “doesn’t want to know”.
poquas @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:03 pm
I refuse to follow you through your delusion. Stick to the topic.
ziggy @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:14 pm
poquas poquas:
I refuse to follow you through your delusion. Stick to the topic.
I was on topic,I mentioned Em many times when her dad died a few years ago.
You have gone through my posts,funny you missed those ones.
Yogi @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:24 pm
martin14 martin14:
Yogi Yogi:
I've thought about this in the past as with my family history, terminal illness is a very likely outcome. I had decided that I wouldn't tell anyone for the following reasons.
I do not like having anyone around me when I am sick. I don't want anyone to 'feel obligated' for any reasons. I don't want anyone to 'rearrange their lives' to accomodate my illness. The ongoing stress that loved ones invariabley experience while 'waiting for the end' will be avoided or considerably reduced.
gotta disagree with you Yogi, my dad thought pretty much as you,
didnt want to burden anyone.
My mom told me about 3 months before he died that something was up,
so I moved back home for while; wasnt easy, but it was worth it
for the time I got to spend with him, and to be there at the end.
Wouldnt trade that for anything, and the guilt I would have had if I
hadnt been told would have been much more difficult to deal with.
You only get one kick at the can in this life, and I'm glad I had the chance
to just hang with him for a while.
That is exactly why I think it is so important to tell people you care about that you do, and as well spend as much time as possible with them while they are alive and able to appreciate and reciprocate for the 'right reasons'. I have experienced both prolonged deaths as well as sudden deaths of people I loved. The emotional and often physical effects of prolonged death is by far much more difficult for the survivors to recover from.
along the lines of what Yogi is saying, the reality with dying is that no matter how much a person wants/thinks it is a personal thing, it is not. A death affects every person who knew that person, even if only for a second.
I would tell my friends and family if I knew the end was coming, if for nothing else so they could raise a beer for me somewhere, some time.
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xerxes @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:21 pm
Guys, and gal, do keep it on topic please.