Do you speak Christian?
Gunnair @ Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:06 am
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart. -H. L. Mencken

Not really sure why you start these threads which just instantly turn into a flame fest when the forum atheist agitators show up to start throwing their shit around like chimps to see what sticks.
Gunnair Gunnair:
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart. -H. L. Mencken

Not really sure why you start these threads which just instantly turn into a flame fest when the forum atheist agitators show up to start throwing their shit around like chimps to see what sticks.
I dont see how that could be considered an insult or an attack.
If you don't believe another's religion, just smile and nod and agree to disagree.
It's something I have failed to do in the past, and I am trying to do now. I only put it up so that sandorski could do the same.
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
sandorski sandorski:
It's ridiculous for you to believe in something for which there is no Evidence. The rest of that has Nothing to do with your Belief. People of Other Beliefs and Non-Belief do those things all the time.
No evidence? Or no empirical data? See the funny thing is, there's lots of "evidence" but no empirical data verifying His existence. Likewise, there's some evidence but no empirical data verifying His non-existence.
There's no real empirical data for the existence of ghosts, or out of body expeiences as a result of transcendental meditation, but no lack of empirical data on either is going to convince me I haven't experienced what I damn well experienced.
Wut? That's a lot of muddled thinking. "Experience" is not Evidence of any sort, as can be demonstrated by an Illusionist and many other ways.
martin14 martin14:
sandorski sandorski:
It's ridiculous for you to believe in something for which there is no Evidence. The rest of that has Nothing to do with your Belief. People of Other Beliefs and Non-Belief do those things all the time.
Fail.
Just.
Fail.
Which part is Fail?
Brenda @ Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:25 am
Live and let live. I don't bother you with my lack of belief in any God, and I would like to not be bothered with your belief in whatever God you choose.
I find the people who call themselves Atheists and try to get the cross that has been put in the 9-11 museum removed insensitive assholes. It may not mean anything to me, but a piece of the WTC, but for others it might bring a lot of peace. Who am I (or more, who are those assholes) to deny people that?
sandorski sandorski:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
sandorski sandorski:
It's ridiculous for you to believe in something for which there is no Evidence. The rest of that has Nothing to do with your Belief. People of Other Beliefs and Non-Belief do those things all the time.
No evidence? Or no empirical data? See the funny thing is, there's lots of "evidence" but no empirical data verifying His existence. Likewise, there's some evidence but no empirical data verifying His non-existence.
There's no real empirical data for the existence of ghosts, or out of body expeiences as a result of transcendental meditation, but no lack of empirical data on either is going to convince me I haven't experienced what I damn well experienced.
Wut? That's a lot of muddled thinking. "Experience" is not Evidence of any sort, as can be demonstrated by an Illusionist and many other ways.
Ah, so now you're going to tell me I had an illusionist hiding somewhere in my house making me see ghosts. Oh, thanks for reminding me, I better check the closets in my room next time I meditate. Wouldn't wanna run the risk of being "mindfreaked"

Of course, you can blame it on drugs too. Wait a minute, meditation requires a clear mind. Trust me, drugs don't help one little bit.
You can play semantics all you want. Experience IS evidence, especially when it can be confirmed by others.
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
A interesting read... but I would like to know what our residence Christians think?
A liberal Christian from a sect that sometimes evidences very little belief in Jesus, God, or Scripture criticizing people of various other sects who do believe in Jesus, God, and Scripture is to me equally as valid as any such critique coming from Derby.
raydan @ Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:01 pm
Gunnair Gunnair:
sandorski sandorski:
Am I an asshole to Christians, ya, but only because if you take some time to really think about what you believe, you to will see that that shit is ridiculous.
If you go out of your way to be an asshole to a group of people because they believe something you do not, I would say you are not an asshole.
I'd say you're a fuckin' prick.
I don't often say bad things about others here...
...shut up, Gun.
But in this case, even though I don't believe, I agree with you.
raydan raydan:
Just like going to church every Sunday doesn't make you a good Christian, neither does speaking Christian... but like everything else in this world today, image is everything.
A fine saying I picked up recently:
Going to church no more makes you a Christian than going to a police station makes you a police officer.
raydan raydan:
Gunnair Gunnair:
sandorski sandorski:
Am I an asshole to Christians, ya, but only because if you take some time to really think about what you believe, you to will see that that shit is ridiculous.
If you go out of your way to be an asshole to a group of people because they believe something you do not, I would say you are not an asshole.
I'd say you're a fuckin' prick.
I don't often say bad things about others here...
...shut up, Gun.
But in this case, even though I don't believe, I agree with you.
Perhaps I'm losing something in the translation here, it being an internet forum and all, and there being a smiley involved, so I'll opt for you to explain this part of your post before I knee jerk and tell you where to go.
Gunnair Gunnair:
Perhaps I'm losing something in the translation here.
All I know is that I gave you a +1 for your posts on this topic.
raydan @ Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:33 pm
Gunnair Gunnair:
raydan raydan:
I don't often say bad things about others here...
...shut up, Gun.
But in this case, even though I don't believe, I agree with you.
Perhaps I'm losing something in the translation here, so I'll opt for you to explain before I knee jerk and tell you to go fuck yourself.
Just teasing about all the times I've teased you by saying bad things about you...
Sorry... here's my peace offering.
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart. -H. L. Mencken

Not really sure why you start these threads which just instantly turn into a flame fest when the forum atheist agitators show up to start throwing their shit around like chimps to see what sticks.
I dont see how that could be considered an insult or an attack.
If you don't believe another's religion, just smile and nod and agree to disagree.
It's something I have failed to do in the past, and I am trying to do now. I only put it up so that sandorski could do the same.
If Sandorski has ever shown a modicum of restraint in his athiest cheerleading and anti-religious bullshit (call him another retarded Kenmore character but replace Conservatives with (insert religious group here) then I'd like to see it.
Posting more athiest rhetoric is a red flag to most of the athiests here who quickly drag out the pom poms to rag on a group because they feel some kind of moronic moral duty. Kinda like the anti-Muslim folks, anti-Native folks, or anti-insert group here folks.
The point I am trying to make is the quote isn't explicitly atheist one. The quote could also be used for those within the different Christian denominations. Even if it was 'atheist rhetoric' I don't see anything offensive or insulting in the quote. If you do please explain it to me.
Gunnair Gunnair:
If Sandorski has ever shown a modicum of restraint