Model to be caned for drinking beer
ridenrain @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:24 pm
I just assumed that Paul Martin fixed that because it was one of his priorities. Did he fail at that one too?
Nothing hypocritical about calling wrong, wrong. Canada has to improve, and we will but that has nothing to do with this, or models being caned because they drank a beer.
Fundamentalist islam is a frighening and brutal religion.
DerbyX @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:29 pm
Deflect to the Liberals? 
You aren't calling it wrong because you care about the child. You are calling it wrong because you want to slam islam.
While you point at that and attack them they'll point at any number of incidents where our children take guns into schools and kill their classmates before killing themselves as proof that our society is brutal and frightening and that while islam may have problems its still better.
ridenrain @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:38 pm
http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/5197041
Here's caing for ya. You can decide for yourself if it's humane.
DerbyX @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:41 pm
Ever watch someone die by electrocution?
A caning shouldn't bother you since they are simply enforcing a law against a moral life choice no different then what you think should happen here.
Caning vs years or decades in jail? How many drug users and dealers would take the caning?
ridenrain @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:46 pm
Has anybody ever been electrocuted, hung or inprisoned for a decade in the US for drinking a beer? Please doccument with a link.
DerbyX @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:50 pm
We are talking about cruel and inhumane punishment so try and keep up.
You still don't understand that you aren't any different. You have no problem with putting drug users/dealers in jail for lengthy periods (and spare me the gang rant) which I consider a grave injustice for a moral choice.
They feel alcohol is wrong no different then how you feel about drugs and they think a caning is a very quick and effective punishment compared with lengthy jail sentences. The fact that our society doesn't view corporal punishment as an option any more is irrelevant.
ridenrain @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:57 pm
DerbyX DerbyX:
Ever watch someone die by electrocution?
A caning shouldn't bother you since they are simply enforcing a law against a moral life choice no different then what you think should happen here.
Caning vs years or decades in jail? How many drug users and dealers would take the caning?
A caning shouldn't bother you since they are simply enforcing a law against a moral life choice no different then what you think should happen here.
Caning vs years or decades in jail? How many drug users and dealers would take the caning?
She drank a beer. I know you desperately need to turn this into a drug topic but she drank a beer.
Now you prattle on about electrocution and soon it will be crucifiction and the Circus maximus.
Did you watch the video and would you consider joining a religion that would do that to someone because they drank a beer?
DerbyX @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:01 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
She drank a beer. I know you desperately need to turn this into a drug topic but she drank a beer.
Now you prattle on about electrocution and soon it will be crucifiction and the Circus maximus.
Did you watch the video and would you consider joining a religion that would do that to someone because they drank a beer?
First off your video link doesn't work. Second so what if its just a beer?
You rant and rave about drugs and its the same thing. Their society has outlawed alcohol.
Of course you can't see your hypocrisy can you?
"she drank a beer"
"he smoked a joint"
Same damn thing. Their society, their laws.
ridenrain @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:07 pm
Dodge. Link does work and would you join a religion that would do that to someone because they drank a beer? You're always a atleist promoter yet you seem to be unable to condem Islam for even the worst things.
Indeed, their society, their rules their morality but none of that prevents us from passing judgement upon them.
Yogi @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:29 pm
People in Malaysia, both residents and tourists are very well aware of the penalties for drinking alcohol. Some choose to take that chance and imbibe anyways. 'Sucks to be them when they get caught'! The penalty in Malaysia for drug posession can be, and quite often is death. There are those who choose to partake anyway. 'Really sucks to be them when they get caught!
Drinking a beer in Malysia, or having a bit of weed in Canada, many people view both activities as personal, and minor in nature, and should not be punishable. Be that as it may, regardless of ones own personal opinions, all countries have laws, and those within the respective borders are well advised to follow them or suffer the consequences. I'm with Derby on this one.
DerbyX @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:02 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
Dodge. Link does work and would you join a religion that would do that to someone because they drank a beer? You're always a atleist promoter yet you seem to be unable to condem Islam for even the worst things.
Indeed, their society, their rules their morality but none of that prevents us from passing judgement upon them.
Indeed, their society, their rules their morality but none of that prevents us from passing judgement upon them.
No your link doesn't work, at least not to me.
If by "atleist" you mean "Athiest" then yes I am. What I condemn are the self-righteous morons that constantly condemn them with absolutely no regard for what ills our society has or does. You keep crying about how "she only drank a beer" yet you consistently think its OK for you to condemn and jail others who only smoked a joint (or took a hit of acid or whatever).
In others words you have no problem with society inflicting whatever punishment you find acceptable to enforce whatever morality you find acceptable. They are doing the exact same thing.
BTW, nothing prevents me from passing judgement on you either.
Annihilator @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:14 pm
The problem is not about punishing the wrong-doers, that's fine.
The problem is using torture to punish another humain being. That's just cruel and inhumane.
About death penalty, the death penalties we have in North America are meant to kill the person as fast as possible, not to make them atrociously suffer, the difference is there.
Praxius @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:15 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Praxius Praxius:
And if that many cane whacks can cause the person death, then maybe those people should grow some thicker skin. 
How very sensitive of you.
Life sucks no matter where you live, it's just always a little different.
Praxius @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:16 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
$1:
He added that the 100-odd convenience stores from Section 1 to 24 in Shah Alam had been issued with letters urging them to stop selling alcoholic beverages, as the outlets were in Muslim-majority neighbourhoods.
So the Muslims have tolerance for the rights of others only until Muslims are the majority and then they forcibly impose their beliefs on everyone else.
Isn't that how it works in Democracy? Majority rules and all.
What's the problem? That it's not Christian?
DerbyX @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:29 pm
Annihilator Annihilator:
The problem is not about punishing the wrong-doers, that's fine.
The problem is using torture to punish another humain being. That's just cruel and inhumane.
About death penalty, the death penalties we have in North America are meant to kill the person as fast as possible, not to make them atrociously suffer, the difference is there.
The problem is using torture to punish another humain being. That's just cruel and inhumane.
About death penalty, the death penalties we have in North America are meant to kill the person as fast as possible, not to make them atrociously suffer, the difference is there.
Actually I think many people consider the death part to be cruel and inhumane.