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The Arrogant Certainty Of Science

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roger-roger @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:18 am

In interesting video, he makes some good observations...

   



sandorski @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:26 pm

He always has good points, which is why he's hated by many.

   



fifeboy @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:46 pm

Excellent . Too bad he has to go to Hell when he dies :P

   



Canadaka @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:12 pm

Richard Dawkins is my hero.

   



RUEZ @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:24 pm

I also believe in UFO's. Who's gonna try and talk me out of that one?

   



Arctic_Menace @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:54 pm

Great video.

   



Zipperfish @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:56 pm

Awesome video. Thanks for finding that. Back to scrubbing toilets.

   



Freakinoldguy @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:01 pm

Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Awesome video. Thanks for finding that. Back to scrubbing toilets.


Scrubbing toilets??????

WTF, did you do something that pissed the Chief off? ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

   



Scape @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:11 pm

Good find.

   



LIVdb @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:24 pm

That was a great video, are there more on Youtube? I've never been a religious person and I guess based on this video I have my parents to thank for! But I'd also like to think that my minor in sociology from university reinforced my non-religious attitudes... who knows

   



roger-roger @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:28 pm

just goto you tube and type in Dawkins you will find alot of his videos or goto http://richarddawkins.net/

   



LIVdb @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:33 pm

Thanks I really appreciate it.

   



roger-roger @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:34 pm

Also see if you can get a copy of "The God Delusion" its an amazing book and one of my favorate.

   



commanderkai @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:16 pm

Eisensapper Eisensapper:
In interesting video, he makes some good observations...


What observations? Honestly there was nothing really interesting or good about them. Just showing a map of Belfast and religion is the only difference between Catholic Irish and Protestant Irish is a farce, and shows poor understanding of the deeper conflict, particularly the British aspect of it.

The reason why science (Dawkins claim), or rather atheists (what he REALLY meant), are considered arrogant is because they believe they are correct, when many of their ideas and beliefs on religion and religious faith are nothing but lies and myth. The most common I see on this site is the "Religion is a major factor in the start of wars", which is a lie, and has been since maybe the last 300 or so years. But that myth has been continued for who knows how long, and no matter what evidence is shown to discount that, it keeps on going.

And maybe faith has a little more to do with the interpretation of evidence than the lack of evidence. Where a religious person sees a miracle, an atheist sees random chance. Where a religious person sees the hand of God or feels the touch of God, or whatever else, an atheist discounts that as insanity or ignorance or something else.

The arrogance does not come from the fact that you're an atheist, honestly, I couldn't give a damn if you are or not, it's the fact that as an atheist, you become arrogant in both mocking those of faith, and religion itself. Dawkins opened the door to being labeled as arrogant because he is arrogant, and being humbled by the mysteries of the universe doesn't change that at all.

   



lynnefoster @ Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:27 pm

Eisensapper Eisensapper:
In interesting video, he makes some good observations...



That's very good Pappy, it reminds me of this essay I read:

Most educated people nowadays, do not know enough about learning to be able to develop their own opinions. No doubt, they like to think they are educated, but people who routinely say things which are too false to be believed by anybody who retains any capacity at all for critical thought, betray ignorance.

We learn by experimentation, by observation, by communication & instruction, by contrast & comparison, by intuition, by practice & experience and by analogy.

Truth is simply the most objective and the most credible version of something we have learned. Needless to say, the facts which expose the truth are logically independent of what we believe. We can falsely believe the world is flat until our personal beliefs and experiences are challenged and expanded. Socrates called the truth, "correctness of opinion."

Different interpretations or perceptions about the shape of the earth merely prove that the facts which have shaped the mental state of one person are are not the same as the ones that have shaped the mental state of another.

Truth can be many things; it can be a shared relationship, an organized perception, an intuitive judgement, a lucky guess ...but it can never be a falsehood like the claim that the earth is flat.

The ultimate goal of learning and the pursuit of truth is to develop understanding. Depth of knowledge and experience determines the degree of understanding.

We can all agree with the claim that the world is round, whether it is because our parents or teachers told us so, we read it in a book, we viewed pictures and movies, studied a globe or orbited the earth in a space capsule -clearly, the depth of certainty and understanding will vary depending upon how each of us has studied, confirmed or thought about the claim that the earth is round.

There is enormous misunderstanding about what truth is and what it is not, and that is because at our core, we are insecure, social animals who gravitate, not towards the conviction that we are intelligent enough to find the truth ourselves, but towards the need to adhere to some authority who does all the thinking for us. "Schools of thought" grant the appearance of intelligence, and in many respects, the intelligence is clearly apparent. But when they advocate dogmatic propositions and demand homogeneous compliance, these schools that are supposed to be beacons of light become temples of ignorance because they unilaterally dismiss any truth that violates their adopted statements.


This is the source of the above !


I am proud of you Pappy, you and I are usually at each other's throats, and now I discover that we share the same, functioning brain. WHAT A SHOCK ! ! !

   



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