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I never understood the whole sympathy for Jesus thing:

Christianity defines the Holy Trinity as a single being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. Alright so far?

So, the son (Jesus) is just one part of God, all knowing and eternal creator of everything, yadda yadda yadda.

Basically God sent a piece of himself down to earth in a human body, performed a few miracles, had the shit beat out of himself, and then had himself "killed" only to go back to being God up in the sky. Big friggin' deal.

So what exactly was the sacrifice here? He put on a big show and pretended to die? Surely he knew he was eternal when he sent himself down there, so who the hell cares if an eternal being "sacrificed" himself a billion times?

Something doesn't add up, maybe a Christian or two can explain this.

   

Christ never claimed to be God, the trinitarian nonsense was something made up, many years after he died.

   

yeah, I do not subscribe to the trinitarian stuff.

Its God and the Son.

And you just crossed the line their blue nose.

God so loved our world that he gave his only begotten son to live a human life to spread the word of God and die the most brutal death of the history of the world so through him your sins could be forgivven.

How dare you insult his greatest of sacrifices to us.

Do you deny the lord our savior, Jesus Christ's sacrifice to you, to me, to all of us?

A loving man who came to earth to spread the word of God and touch all the lives around him, to die a brutal death, so YOU can go to the Lord by him? You denial of his sacrifice for you is utterly sickening.

/rant

   

Westmanguy, it shouldn't make you anti-Semitic unless you are given to believing in irrational conspiracies.

Though, there is some anti-Semitism in the movie (it is Mel Gibson after all) it's not the really pernicious kind. Though, the movie does contain this classic verse ("His blood be on us, and on our children." Matthew 25:17) which has been used to justify almost 2 millennia of Jewish persecution and the first time you see one of the Jewish high priests he's clutching a money bag......

And why are so enraged towards Judas and the mob who call for Jesus' death? If God has preordained everything, then they are simply doing their part in God's plan.

Would you have them not have Jesus killed? Because that would mean then that Dan Brown is right and Jesus was never crucified and instead married Mary Magdalene.

Personally, I did not care for the move at all. The violence was too over the top and so incessant that it ruined whatever message one is supposed to derive from the movie. This was a case where less would have been more.

   

clarification I thought it would make me anti-Roman.

I meant Roman - not Jew.

   

so it should have been all warm and fuzzy with flowers?

The violence depicts (or some would say doesn't go far enough) the immense sacrifice Jesus Christ made for us.

As per the Biblical records, he was beaten, whipped, had the thorn crown, and was nailed to the cross.

   

I didn't ask anyone to die for me.

   

Jesus sacrifice his human life so EVERYONE could come to the Lord by him.

   

Absolutely I do. I deny Jesus and his love and his sacrifice. I'm perfectly comfortable with accepting responsibility for how I live my life. If God exists and doesn't think that's good enough, he can pound sand and I'll burn in Hell, I guess.

There have been millions or billions of people who have died horrible deaths besides Jesus. People sacrifice themselves daily to protect their loved ones - people who die fighting wars, fighting fires, or fighting criminals - and they have actually saved lives.

Jesus apparently chose to die for his own reasons and his own God that I don't have any reason to believe exists. It might have been an awful, disgusting, tragic death, but that doesn't make God any more real.

   

What? You've never told anyone to F'off and die?

   

Is Jesus eternal or not?

   

What if I don't want to go to the lord?

   

That's to die for the happiness of the earth, no me

   

as eternal as any human being

   

he is eternal.

He lived a human life then rose to Heaven after 3 days.

Jesus's sacrifice was for ALL OF HUMANITY. His sacrifice allows each and everyone of us to have eternal peace in Heaven by coming to the Lord by him.

"chose to die for his own reasons" What the heck? He did fear the pain of death, and he died for EVERYONE, not himself.

   

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