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Speaking of hydrocarbons and fuel efficiency, I have to laugh when I see a car commercial bragging about getting 30-32mpg. Like what the fuck is that to brag about? The Japanese were building cars with that kind of mileage 30 friggin' years ago.

   

If this is Global Warming. I wish there was more of it on my part of the world. The lack of global warming really is a PITA in 50+ C temps in the summer here.

Come on guys, fire up those V8's and warm this place up. !

   

We'll just send some politicans over. They got lots of hot air to keep you warm.

   

Ten years ago one of the leading AGW high priests announced that there would be no more snow in the UK by 2010. Yet here it is and the UK is pretty much coming to a halt because of record breaking snow and record breaking cold.

It's also record breaking cold in the tropics.

For instance, in Cancun they're going to have to wear sweaters at night this week:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sour ... pQSt68HADQ

The last time those sh!theads got together in Copenhagen they were treated to record cold.

While I still believe, as I always have, that the general trend of the past 20,000 years is to gradually warm I utterly reject the notion of catastrophic rapid warming because it's not happening.

That's not my 'theory', it's an observation of fact.

   

Depends on the vehicle. If that's a Full sized family sedan, then it's impressive. Back in the 70's that class was lucky to get 20mpg on the Highway.

   

Incorrect.

   

Wrong.

   

   

That's what I'm sayin.

   

I'd hardly call an extra 10 mpg over a span of more than 30 years to be "impressive". Especailly considering that particular class of vehicle is now smaller and lighter than it was in the 70's.
And while the Japanese models were primarily compacts and sub-compacts, we have those same vehicle classes today and the gas mileage hasn't improved much over 30 years. Which I find a little odd considering the leaps in other types of automotive technology.
Back in the early 90's a group of engineering students(from Oxford University I believe) took an MG, did some minor modifications to the engine and fuel system and were able to get 100 mpg out of it.
If engineering students can figure it out 20 years ago, why the hell can't/won't the auto manufacturers do it today, at least with compact and sub-compact classes?

   

I'll somewhat agree with you, but it's still somewhat significant as not only are the mpg figures better, but also the hp figures are much better too. On top of that there's also significantly lower Emissions. Could be much better, except the lack of Regulation during that time allowed Auto makers to lolligag.

   

Fact is a couple of days ago you readily admitted a warming trend, and now, via this post, you seem to be back to the idea that there is no warming trend. You've been consistently inconsistent in your approach. Again, this is typical of arguments with skeptics as they seize on any piece of "evidence" that suggests their viewpoint, only to abandon them in the next argument.

And a bit of a straw man argument there--I don't think there are many science folks out there that say global warming is 100% anthropogenic. The consensus view is that humankind is a significant driver through CO2 emissions.

And yes you were discussing global warming, not the weather. Thus the thread title: "How's that Global Warming working out for you?"

   

Me, too!

   

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... rming.html

Global Warming "Very Likely" Caused by Humans, World Climate Experts Say

Sounds like an all-inclusive statement to me.



That means the 'consensus' of the IPCC was not rashly drafted, but carefully and with deliberation.



As to what percentage they really meant...



So 90% of global warming is caused by human activity. That's the IPCC saying that, not me.

   

Here's some more observations. The most recent report from NOAA:

- The combined global land and ocean surface temperature for October 2010 was 0.54°C (0.97°F) above the 20th century average of 14.0°C (57.1°F) and was the eighth warmest on record. October 2003 is the warmest October on record.
- The October worldwide land surface temperature was 0.91°C (1.64°F) above the 20th century average of 9.3°C (48.7°F)—the sixth warmest October on record.
- The October worldwide ocean surface temperature was 0.40°C (0.72°F) above the 20th century average of 15.9°C (60.6°F) and was the tenth warmest October on record.
- For January–October 2010, the global combined land and ocean surface temperature was 0.63°C (1.13°F) above the 20th century average of 14.1°C (57.4°F) and tied with 1998 as the warmest January–October period on record.
- The global average land surface temperature for the period January–October was the second warmest on record, behind 2007.
- The global average ocean surface temperature for the period January–October tied with 2003 as the second warmest on record, behind 1998.

[url]http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=global&year=2010&month=10]State of the Climate, Global Analysis, October 2010, NOAA[/url]

   

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