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and yet another defense of the police even though we KNOW these will get abused just as all the other "less lethal" weapons have.. Where are you posted anyway Brock?

   

Yes, that clip was ..... shocking!

(ignores the groans and catcalls because somebody had to say it).

   

I understand but something like this wontt have the same affect:

   

I eagerly hoping for the auto cannon taser.
Or perhaps a 50 calibre sniper version.
That would be fun at parties.

   

The perp will shit themselves and think twice about commiting a crime again.

   

"Posted"? What are you going on about? As in mailed? You really do know nothing.

   

In today's Sacramento Bee it came to light that yet ANOTHER person died in police custody. The victim was in jail. In handcuffs. And the idiots tasered him repeatedly and killed him.

   

We've heard again and again how many people have died at the hands of cops with tasers, I gotta ask, any studies out there that show how many lives were saved, how many criminals (and people seem to forget that yes they are criminals) lived to see another day becaus a cop had an option other than a glock
There was no uproar when cops had to shoot when their lives or others were in danger and guess what, yes there were cases of cops shooting those that didn't warrant it, but this backlash on taser use is something I can't fathome given the alternatives.
In closing we are finding more and more that officers using these weapons in a manner not becomming of an officer are being held accountable for their actions, and because of this we will certainly see less abuse of tasers, given what could be I think we should let police use any tool available to them and continue to hold them accountable if and when the misuse them.

   

Another new toy , tazer international can use to manipulate the police forces into using because its safe.......... And all so keep their stock holders HAPPY....Their is a incident in prince george where a man is handcuff behind his back hog tied in the police station ... and theses heros still tazered his 5 times .......till he died....... the rcmp refuses to releases to tape........ makes them look BAD.... http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columb ... spute.html

   

It's the people who are the problem, not the tools. Poor training, techical ignorance, indifference and absent or ineffective supervision are at gault here. There's numerous examples of cops that should have been fired but they were not. Based on that, we could say that the police unions killed more than tazers did.

   

   

Again, besides our Glorious RCMP, this isn't a problem in Canada. In the US where standards of traing vary greatly and mall cops have tasers, there are problems.

   

In the US all 50 states and Puerto Rico have some form of the Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST) that all LEO's are required to complete before being sworn in. I can't speak for mall security as that would be up to the various states, but the sworn folks do meet an overall national standard.

Many states also have more stringent standards that they incorporate into their version of the POST but all are basically the same.

   

The difference in Canada Bart is that only supervisors, as in Sgt's and above can carry tasers in most jurisdictions.

The level of force that a taser can be used is also higher here. It has to be 'assaultive', up from the previous 'active resistance'.

I believe most US PD are still at the equal of 'active resistance' and there is a much more general issue of tasers and hence a higher rate of mis-use due to either lack of judgement, training or both.

   

HERE is a interesting Tazer tidbit or should I say TIMbit............
"December 16, 2009
ctvcalgary.ca

A Calgary man is suing the Calgary Police Service two years after he was Tasered.

In December of 2007, police were called to a disturbance at Shanks Sports Grill.

Nicholas Ashe was attending a staff Christmas party and went outside for a cigarette.

Ashe saw police arrive and says he was approached by a group of people asking him for a light.

Ashe says that's when one officer grabbed him and put him in a headlock. "The other officer grabbed my right arm and tried to twist it around my back. As he was doing that, that's when the Taser went off and I felt a sharp pain in my chest. I went down to the ground."

Ashe tried to communicate that there was some misunderstanding but he says nobody would listen.

Ashe says he was Tasered twice and taken to hospital by ambulance.

Police did lay criminal charges against Nicholas Ashe for assaulting a police officer and obstructing justice but those charges were dismissed in court.

In his ruling, the judge said he believed Ashe's version of events. The judge was also sharply critical of police.

Ashe and his lawyer have now filed a lawsuit seeking $100,000 in damages plus unspecified special damages.

"There's really two main parts to the claim. The first being that a number of things were done that were negligent by police and they didn't carry out the duties that they ought to have done. Beyond that though there's a specific claim that the criminal prosecution that was brought against Mr. Ashe was done maliciously," says Michael Bates, the lawyer for Ashe.

Chief Rick Hanson is also named in the lawsuit. "At the end of the day we'll defend our actions in court. And, as I say, it's a job that requires officers to make a split second decision on the use of force and in the vast, vast majority of circumstances they make the right decision."

The Calgary Police Service has yet to file a statement of defense in the case."


If you do nothing wrong you have nothing to fear.

   

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