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Democrats=Losers? There's now proof.

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xerxes @ Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:51 pm

$1:
Gay Marriage, Abortion, Afirmative Action, Gun Control, school choice, euthanasia, crime laws, and many many more. When they loose these debates in Congress they take them to the courts, which thanks to the dems, are packed with activist judges who would rather write law than interpret it.


ACTIVIST JUDGE, n. A judge who attempts to protect the rights of minorities--most especially homosexuals--against the tyranny of the majority.

   



xerxes @ Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:53 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
xerxes xerxes:
And what sort of judicial activism do the Deocrats engage in Godz?



You don't read much US news, do you?


I actually read quite a bit. Thank you for asking.

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:15 pm

The real difference between a parliamentary system and the American system is that in a parliamentary system, you form coalitions AFTER the election, not before, (the American system).

It IS true that the activist Christian element is a big chunk of the Republican Party, and that it could prove divisive, but it hasn't yet.

But that's a small problem compared to the Democratic Party collapse.

I've been saying for two years that the Democratic Party, in a parliamentary system, would have already collapsed, and have been replaced by two parties.

One would be a 'progressive' wing : mostly professionals, and possessed of the literate, theorhetical wing of the party. Something like the NDP. It's interesting that the word 'progressive' started cropping up, resurrected from long ago, as a term used by those overly-concerned, moralizing, Democrats, at about 2002 or 3. This wing would include the environmentalists and the various X-rightsists.

The other wing would be the old labor and city machiene Democrats, who still have power in various local elections but no real theory behind them beyond getting government contracts and divying up the patronage.

The past two presidential elections, the progressive, American NDP side has managed to push their kind of candidate into the party nomination, and both times the party has ended up with someone who looks like a president from Hollywood central casting, but who has been emphatically boring.

Or, I could be completely wrong.




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xerxes @ Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:27 pm

You're wrong about the religious element of the Republicans. It's been very decisive as of late as evidenced by the incessant pandering by Mullahs DeLay and Frist who seem to think that the religious right are a vehicle to greater office.

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:15 pm

xerxes xerxes:
You're wrong about the religious element of the Republicans. It's been very decisive as of late as evidenced by the incessant pandering by Mullahs DeLay and Frist who seem to think that the religious right are a vehicle to greater office.


I don't think it's especially divisive.

(For novelty's sake, in reverse order... )

a) They're probably right, it is.
b) "Pandering" is in the eye of the beholder. Other people call it "representing".
c) Even if things were happening as you describe, there's been no bad
effects on their own side, so it isn't divisive.

Democrats may hate it, but that's not the Republican's problem.




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Arctic_Menace @ Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:19 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
bootlegga bootlegga:
Well from the Liberal POV, Conservatives are warmongering, women-hating, homophobic racists armed to the teeth with surface to air missiles "A'int no guldamn buzzard flyin' o'er my piece o' dirt!" and/or armour piercing ammo for those 'super' deer sportin' bulletproof fur.


And from our point of view liberals are a bunch of statist, Communist-socialists who smoke pot, butt-fuck, and conspire to rob other people of their earnings, their holdings, and their guns.

"Liberal: someone who can't decide how to spend YOUR money."


Amen to that!!!! And I'm a liberal/socialist. But I don't let crap like this affect me because it is a generalisation classic of the right-wing. Oh shoot, I shouldn't have said should I??????*slaps forehead*

   



Bouboumaster @ Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:49 pm

La religion et la politique ne devrait JAMAIS se mélanger... :roll:

Les démocrates aurraient dut gagner. Les USA aurraient peut-être pus réparer une partie des pots cassés!


En passant, voici un p'tit vidéo bien amusant!

http://www.ericblumrich.com/idiot.html

   



Bouboumaster @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:10 am

$1:
C'est drôle mais la politique et la religion était toujours mélanger au Quebec avant la revolution tranquille. Même la movement independatiste du Quebec était recommençer par un chef religieux (Lionel Groulx). Alors crissez moi patience avec l'hypocrisie mes Quebecois gauchistes.



Cool, tu parles français! Sa va mieux aller!


Premièrement, la religion et la politique était bien mélanger dans les années 60. Et ça l'a fait beaucoup de dommages aussi. On est rester dans notre bulle. On a jamais progressé. Quand il y a eu la Révolution Tranquille, c'est comme si on faisait un bond de 50 ans d'un seul coup par en avant!

Quand vous voter pour un handicapé mental comme Bush, vous stagniez. Vous arrêter de progresser, et même, vous reculez. C'est con de voter pour quelqu'un qui fait arrêter le progrès, non? À la place, ils vous as embourber en Irak, et il a fait du cash.

Alors, crissez-nous la paix avec votre supidité, les américains droitistes! Pis arrêter de mettre la marde dans le monde!

   



BartSimpson @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:08 am

Here's a note from one of the liberal judges on the most liberal Federal Court in the USA - the Ninth Circuit. Excerpts below...


http://open-spaces.com/article-v3n1-oscannlain.php

[quote=Judge Diarmuid F. O'Scannlain]
"The role of the judge is thus limited to determining whether the law has been enforced "correctly." This determination is traditionally conceptualized as having two elements. First, the relevant facts must be wholly and accurately established; second, the law must be faithfully applied to the relevant facts."

"One can view the guarantees of individual rights in the Constitution as our nation's documented consensus on where to draw the limits of law."

"When a judge is swayed by his own sentiment rather than considerations of deference, predictability, and uniformity, he fails by definition to apply the law faithfully. This is the essence of judicial activism."

The remedy for a bad law is to change the law through legislative action, not to depart from it one way or the other in the courts. The solution, in short, is democracy-the political process-and not judicial activism.
[/quote]

Judicial activism is a short-circuiting of the democratic process. It is the creation of laws without proper debate, it is, in short, dictatorship in a black robe.

The Democrats use judicial activism to push the more radical aspects of their agenda that even Democrat controlled legislatures like those in California, Massachussetts, and New York will never support!

It is a tyranny of the minority.

   



BartSimpson @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:23 am

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:
La religion et la politique ne devrait JAMAIS se mélanger... :roll:

Les démocrates aurraient dut gagner. Les USA aurraient peut-être pus réparer une partie des pots cassés!


En passant, voici un p'tit vidéo bien amusant!

http://www.ericblumrich.com/idiot.html


Religion and politics will inevitably mix unless you actively disenfranchise religious people. That would open the door for religious people to disenfranchise secular people once the religiuos people gain power.

   



BartSimpson @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:25 am

Godz46 Godz46:
La religion et la politique ne devrait JAMAIS se mélanger...


C'est drôle mais la politique et la religion était toujours mélanger au Quebec avant la revolution tranquille. Même la movement independatiste du Quebec était recommençer par un chef religieux (Lionel Groulx). Alors crissez moi patience avec l'hypocrisie mes Quebecois gauchistes.



Well said. Religious people were responsible for ending slavery and religious acts of conscience counter injustice all over the world.

Even in Canada.

   



BartSimpson @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:29 am

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:
$1:
C'est drôle mais la politique et la religion était toujours mélanger au Quebec avant la revolution tranquille. Même la movement independatiste du Quebec était recommençer par un chef religieux (Lionel Groulx). Alors crissez moi patience avec l'hypocrisie mes Quebecois gauchistes.



Cool, tu parles français! Sa va mieux aller!


Premièrement, la religion et la politique était bien mélanger dans les années 60. Et ça l'a fait beaucoup de dommages aussi. On est rester dans notre bulle. On a jamais progressé. Quand il y a eu la Révolution Tranquille, c'est comme si on faisait un bond de 50 ans d'un seul coup par en avant!

Quand vous voter pour un handicapé mental comme Bush, vous stagniez. Vous arrêter de progresser, et même, vous reculez. C'est con de voter pour quelqu'un qui fait arrêter le progrès, non? À la place, ils vous as embourber en Irak, et il a fait du cash.

Alors, crissez-nous la paix avec votre supidité, les américains droitistes! Pis arrêter de mettre la marde dans le monde!


So Bush is an idiot because he is religious? Then by your measure the Pope must be a drooling retard. I can only imagine what you must think of the Dalai Lama. And Joan of Arc was a schizophrenic delusional.

What about Mother Therese? :roll:

   



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