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Benoit @ Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:02 pm
alana alana:
Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
James Moore (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Works and Government Services) is particularly disgusting.
Bacardi4206 @ Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:48 pm
alana alana:
Canadians just have to pat themselves on the back for every good deed they do. "Look at us, aren't we wonderful?" And they MUST get praise or the recipient of their good deed is deemed ungrateful.
As for corrupt Government, Canada should be looking at its own political scene instead of pointing the finger at U.S. There's plenty going on here that's not right. Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
As for corrupt Government, Canada should be looking at its own political scene instead of pointing the finger at U.S. There's plenty going on here that's not right. Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
Yea it's very selfish of us to want a pat on the back for a good job well done, or reconision for even doing the job. The noble thing to do was help America when it was in need, but when we wern't reconised for the good work we did. We should have just stayed quite, and pretend we had no part in it. Lol, yes that makes a lot of sense now that I think about it
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As for the corruption, Canadian Government has done some stupid shit lately. Well one being not so recent. We allow the seal hunts, and slaughters of many innocent seals. Very barbaric. While American allows generations of wars, and the slaughters of many people including many innocent people.
I suppose we are very simular in those areas, except theres a difference. The Canadian people have more control over there Government then the American people have over theres. America's government is so far gone, that I would actually be shocked if at one point the American people could get there Government to stop something they really diddn't like.
Benoit @ Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:10 pm
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
alana alana:
Canadians just have to pat themselves on the back for every good deed they do. "Look at us, aren't we wonderful?" And they MUST get praise or the recipient of their good deed is deemed ungrateful.
As for corrupt Government, Canada should be looking at its own political scene instead of pointing the finger at U.S. There's plenty going on here that's not right. Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
As for corrupt Government, Canada should be looking at its own political scene instead of pointing the finger at U.S. There's plenty going on here that's not right. Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
Yea it's very selfish of us to want a pat on the back for a good job well done, or reconision for even doing the job. The noble thing to do was help America when it was in need, but when we wern't reconised for the good work we did. We should have just stayed quite, and pretend we had no part in it. Lol, yes that makes a lot of sense now that I think about it
. As for the corruption, Canadian Government has done some stupid shit lately. Well one being not so recent. We allow the seal hunts, and slaughters of many innocent seals. Very barbaric. While American allows generations of wars, and the slaughters of many people including many innocent people.
I suppose we are very simular in those areas, except theres a difference. The Canadian people have more control over there Government then the American people have over theres. America's government is so far gone, that I would actually be shocked if at one point the American people could get there Government to stop something they really diddn't like.
If you think the US government is so alienated from the population, why is it important for you to receive official thanks over all the thanks given by individual Americans!?
Bacardi4206 @ Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:40 pm
Benoit Benoit:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
alana alana:
Canadians just have to pat themselves on the back for every good deed they do. "Look at us, aren't we wonderful?" And they MUST get praise or the recipient of their good deed is deemed ungrateful.
As for corrupt Government, Canada should be looking at its own political scene instead of pointing the finger at U.S. There's plenty going on here that's not right. Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
As for corrupt Government, Canada should be looking at its own political scene instead of pointing the finger at U.S. There's plenty going on here that's not right. Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
Yea it's very selfish of us to want a pat on the back for a good job well done, or reconision for even doing the job. The noble thing to do was help America when it was in need, but when we wern't reconised for the good work we did. We should have just stayed quite, and pretend we had no part in it. Lol, yes that makes a lot of sense now that I think about it
. As for the corruption, Canadian Government has done some stupid shit lately. Well one being not so recent. We allow the seal hunts, and slaughters of many innocent seals. Very barbaric. While American allows generations of wars, and the slaughters of many people including many innocent people.
I suppose we are very simular in those areas, except theres a difference. The Canadian people have more control over there Government then the American people have over theres. America's government is so far gone, that I would actually be shocked if at one point the American people could get there Government to stop something they really diddn't like.
If you think the US government is so alienated from the population, why is it important for you to receive official thanks over all the thanks given by individual Americans!?
Because American's aren't there Government, American's are human beings with values and opinions, and other stuff. It would be nice to have a thanks, and recieve reconision for helping them. My point was that Canadians just hate the American Government, however Americans will always disagree with that point of view. No matter what the world tells them. I've talked to many American's and they all stated themselves there Government was corrupt, and bad. However if you just openly attack America based on the Government, they will defend that point of view. Point being, Canadians and Americans wont get a long unti'll we both can take the trueth, and criticism. Which we both can't. Unti'll that day, there will always be Canadians and Americans bashing each other. Unti'll both Countries learn to respect each other as well, there will not be any Canada/US relation. All you will get is what we always have had, some phony bs relationship where politicians just state the we have a good relationship, in reality that relationship is as real as Hollywood. Just smoke and mirrors.
If Americans can't respect Canada, and Canadians can't respect America. Then why bother trying to mend something that can't be fixed? Canadians should just stop caring about America, since they obviously don't care back.
travior @ Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:11 pm
The biggest problem with America is the arrogance of the government. "We are the biggest, we are the best, we are the most powerful, if you don't like it we'll force it down your throat...", etc.
I freely admit that our government is beyond help or hope. I'm hanging on for the ride and hope I don't get shot.
The sad part is that this militaristic mentality is fed to the population the moment they enter school. Most of the history lessons revolve around war and our heroic battles that were fought for our freedoms. We tend to forget that history is written by the winners. (Not saying that some wars were worth fighting. Just saying that some history is polished up a bit to make us sound honorable and noble in our fights.)
Many Americans cannot find their own hometown on the map, much less anything beyond our borders. A large portion of the population (especially those of us in the southeast that are nowhere near an international border) have never even been outside their own state or at least not past their neighboring state. If more people actually experienced another's culture, they would have a better appreciation of it and have more respect for it.
The history of our independance from England has forever fused our way of thinking. "Don't tread on me!" We cannot appreciate that Canada was able to gain her soverinty without bloodshed or the rantings of ignorant politicians threatening violence.
Our nation was formed and framed by conflict. We seem to be addicted to it. We cannot appreciate that we have a good, caring, respectable neighbor to the North. Since there is no conflict with the individual peoples of the countries, the politicians take it upon themselves to provide the senseless conflict.
You can thank the media for the lack of fanfare that Canada's help received in events like Katrina. I had not heard about it until this post! Of course, that would have been a good and wholesome kind of story. Good and wholesome doesn't sell products. Americans only want to see suffering when they watch the news. Suffering sells airtime.
America helps her neighbor to the North. Just ask the heart attack guy that had to wait 5 minutes at a border crossing recently while the ambulance driver convinced the border agent that the man really was having a heart attack. Yep! Helpful!
Benoit @ Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:24 pm
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Benoit Benoit:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
alana alana:
Canadians just have to pat themselves on the back for every good deed they do. "Look at us, aren't we wonderful?" And they MUST get praise or the recipient of their good deed is deemed ungrateful.
As for corrupt Government, Canada should be looking at its own political scene instead of pointing the finger at U.S. There's plenty going on here that's not right. Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
As for corrupt Government, Canada should be looking at its own political scene instead of pointing the finger at U.S. There's plenty going on here that's not right. Watched Parliamentary proceedings lately?? Its disgusting.
Yea it's very selfish of us to want a pat on the back for a good job well done, or reconision for even doing the job. The noble thing to do was help America when it was in need, but when we wern't reconised for the good work we did. We should have just stayed quite, and pretend we had no part in it. Lol, yes that makes a lot of sense now that I think about it
. As for the corruption, Canadian Government has done some stupid shit lately. Well one being not so recent. We allow the seal hunts, and slaughters of many innocent seals. Very barbaric. While American allows generations of wars, and the slaughters of many people including many innocent people.
I suppose we are very simular in those areas, except theres a difference. The Canadian people have more control over there Government then the American people have over theres. America's government is so far gone, that I would actually be shocked if at one point the American people could get there Government to stop something they really diddn't like.
If you think the US government is so alienated from the population, why is it important for you to receive official thanks over all the thanks given by individual Americans!?
Because American's aren't there Government, American's are human beings with values and opinions, and other stuff. It would be nice to have a thanks, and recieve reconision for helping them. My point was that Canadians just hate the American Government, however Americans will always disagree with that point of view. No matter what the world tells them. I've talked to many American's and they all stated themselves there Government was corrupt, and bad. However if you just openly attack America based on the Government, they will defend that point of view. Point being, Canadians and Americans wont get a long unti'll we both can take the trueth, and criticism. Which we both can't. Unti'll that day, there will always be Canadians and Americans bashing each other. Unti'll both Countries learn to respect each other as well, there will not be any Canada/US relation. All you will get is what we always have had, some phony bs relationship where politicians just state the we have a good relationship, in reality that relationship is as real as Hollywood. Just smoke and mirrors.
If Americans can't respect Canada, and Canadians can't respect America. Then why bother trying to mend something that can't be fixed? Canadians should just stop caring about America, since they obviously don't care back.
Americans owe Canadians reasons not emotions.
dog77_1999 @ Thu May 01, 2008 12:29 am
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Gonzo Gonzo:
Canada, living next to the U.S. cares a little to much what
our neighbour thinks. I'm sure Spain doesn't sit
around caring what France thinks of them.
So why does Canada care?
Probably because America
has a way of overlooking what we do for them.
Landing planes for them after the terrorist attacks,
Bush thanked every nation for helping except us.
But who cares. Canada is a great country.
We dont need the US to recognize that.
There's to much discussion about Canada/US relations.
I'm sure Americans aren't discussing the
soft wood lumber dispute, or how they could mend relations with us. Personally I dont care.
There is more interesting things to talk about.
Plus, I dont want Americans to know how great it is here because then they might all want to move up here. Thats just what we need.
I liek it! our neighbour thinks. I'm sure Spain doesn't sit
around caring what France thinks of them.
So why does Canada care?
Probably because America
has a way of overlooking what we do for them.
Landing planes for them after the terrorist attacks,
Bush thanked every nation for helping except us.
But who cares. Canada is a great country.
We dont need the US to recognize that.
There's to much discussion about Canada/US relations.
I'm sure Americans aren't discussing the
soft wood lumber dispute, or how they could mend relations with us. Personally I dont care.
There is more interesting things to talk about.
Plus, I dont want Americans to know how great it is here because then they might all want to move up here. Thats just what we need.
Same here, I think that is the most interesting arguement I have read this topic and very true.
Canada sent help with Katrina, we helped out with U.S.'s other disasters. Even our evil corporations (All Corporations are evil) supplied money so completly destroyed towns can rebuild, and even supplied builders, and contractors.
Our effort was so great towards that, that even one of the towns we helped out renamed itself to Canada (or something Canadian related, been awhile since I saw the article/video).
Yet I haven't really seen anything regarding any thanks, or reconision for it except directly from the individual people and towns we helped out.
Hell I can't even game anymore without a shitload of American's getting on my case for being Canadian (Gamename: Canadian4206, or CanadianTO). Though it's pretty much always been like that, only gotten worse over the years.
Canada however gets a lot of respect from pretty much all the Europe Country's, expecially from the British People (Not Government).
So if Canada and the rest of the world can get along to so great, why not Canada and America?
I think it's because the American people are just not educated enough about the world around them. There education is all about America. Like they are in a little bubble (Probally due to having there Government run there education system).
Though in all fairness, Canadians are just naturally Anti-American apparently because Canadians are raised just so differently, more community bases and more friendly which is completly different from the American experience. America is just so different from Canada that it is hard not to be Anti-American. (Meaning Anti-American Government, not Anti-Americans).
We see the American Government for what it really is. The most corrupt, broken Government in the world. We always voice our opinion about that, however naturally as anybody would do. Americans stick up for there Government, which I would do if it was my Government. The Arguement remains.
Personally, I don't think there is much chance of Canada and the U.S. to really have a good relationship. Despite for our politicians.
Americans don't care about Canada (Obviously), so Canadians shouldn't care about America.
You know, I help volunteer in Katrina as well. I'll let you know when I get a thanks from them. Ugh, brings back some angry feelings.
Benoit @ Thu May 01, 2008 6:18 am
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Gonzo Gonzo:
Canada, living next to the U.S. cares a little to much what
our neighbour thinks. I'm sure Spain doesn't sit
around caring what France thinks of them.
So why does Canada care?
Probably because America
has a way of overlooking what we do for them.
Landing planes for them after the terrorist attacks,
Bush thanked every nation for helping except us.
But who cares. Canada is a great country.
We dont need the US to recognize that.
There's to much discussion about Canada/US relations.
I'm sure Americans aren't discussing the
soft wood lumber dispute, or how they could mend relations with us. Personally I dont care.
There is more interesting things to talk about.
Plus, I dont want Americans to know how great it is here because then they might all want to move up here. Thats just what we need.
I liek it! our neighbour thinks. I'm sure Spain doesn't sit
around caring what France thinks of them.
So why does Canada care?
Probably because America
has a way of overlooking what we do for them.
Landing planes for them after the terrorist attacks,
Bush thanked every nation for helping except us.
But who cares. Canada is a great country.
We dont need the US to recognize that.
There's to much discussion about Canada/US relations.
I'm sure Americans aren't discussing the
soft wood lumber dispute, or how they could mend relations with us. Personally I dont care.
There is more interesting things to talk about.
Plus, I dont want Americans to know how great it is here because then they might all want to move up here. Thats just what we need.
Same here, I think that is the most interesting arguement I have read this topic and very true.
Canada sent help with Katrina, we helped out with U.S.'s other disasters. Even our evil corporations (All Corporations are evil) supplied money so completly destroyed towns can rebuild, and even supplied builders, and contractors.
Our effort was so great towards that, that even one of the towns we helped out renamed itself to Canada (or something Canadian related, been awhile since I saw the article/video).
Yet I haven't really seen anything regarding any thanks, or reconision for it except directly from the individual people and towns we helped out.
Hell I can't even game anymore without a shitload of American's getting on my case for being Canadian (Gamename: Canadian4206, or CanadianTO). Though it's pretty much always been like that, only gotten worse over the years.
Canada however gets a lot of respect from pretty much all the Europe Country's, expecially from the British People (Not Government).
So if Canada and the rest of the world can get along to so great, why not Canada and America?
I think it's because the American people are just not educated enough about the world around them. There education is all about America. Like they are in a little bubble (Probally due to having there Government run there education system).
Though in all fairness, Canadians are just naturally Anti-American apparently because Canadians are raised just so differently, more community bases and more friendly which is completly different from the American experience. America is just so different from Canada that it is hard not to be Anti-American. (Meaning Anti-American Government, not Anti-Americans).
We see the American Government for what it really is. The most corrupt, broken Government in the world. We always voice our opinion about that, however naturally as anybody would do. Americans stick up for there Government, which I would do if it was my Government. The Arguement remains.
Personally, I don't think there is much chance of Canada and the U.S. to really have a good relationship. Despite for our politicians.
Americans don't care about Canada (Obviously), so Canadians shouldn't care about America.
You know, I help volunteer in Katrina as well. I'll let you know when I get a thanks from them. Ugh, brings back some angry feelings.
Bring back the Blues music in New Orleans, you will see what will happen to your angry feelings.
alana @ Thu May 01, 2008 7:12 am
America has many more elected positions than we do. Therefore they have the power to vote them out when they are not pleased.
The only ones we elect are te members of parliament, and once they are elected they have to do what their party leader tells them, not what their constituents want them to do. Sure, we can vote them out after 4 years, but then their replacement will be in the same situation as toeing the party line.
Benoit @ Thu May 01, 2008 7:29 am
The individualist culture in America is a big obstacle to political change there.
ManifestDestiny @ Thu May 01, 2008 8:28 am
The socialist culture in Canada is a big obstacle to political change there.
dog77_1999 @ Thu May 01, 2008 10:17 am
Benoit Benoit:
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Gonzo Gonzo:
Canada, living next to the U.S. cares a little to much what
our neighbour thinks. I'm sure Spain doesn't sit
around caring what France thinks of them.
So why does Canada care?
Probably because America
has a way of overlooking what we do for them.
Landing planes for them after the terrorist attacks,
Bush thanked every nation for helping except us.
But who cares. Canada is a great country.
We dont need the US to recognize that.
There's to much discussion about Canada/US relations.
I'm sure Americans aren't discussing the
soft wood lumber dispute, or how they could mend relations with us. Personally I dont care.
There is more interesting things to talk about.
Plus, I dont want Americans to know how great it is here because then they might all want to move up here. Thats just what we need.
I liek it! our neighbour thinks. I'm sure Spain doesn't sit
around caring what France thinks of them.
So why does Canada care?
Probably because America
has a way of overlooking what we do for them.
Landing planes for them after the terrorist attacks,
Bush thanked every nation for helping except us.
But who cares. Canada is a great country.
We dont need the US to recognize that.
There's to much discussion about Canada/US relations.
I'm sure Americans aren't discussing the
soft wood lumber dispute, or how they could mend relations with us. Personally I dont care.
There is more interesting things to talk about.
Plus, I dont want Americans to know how great it is here because then they might all want to move up here. Thats just what we need.
Same here, I think that is the most interesting arguement I have read this topic and very true.
Canada sent help with Katrina, we helped out with U.S.'s other disasters. Even our evil corporations (All Corporations are evil) supplied money so completly destroyed towns can rebuild, and even supplied builders, and contractors.
Our effort was so great towards that, that even one of the towns we helped out renamed itself to Canada (or something Canadian related, been awhile since I saw the article/video).
Yet I haven't really seen anything regarding any thanks, or reconision for it except directly from the individual people and towns we helped out.
Hell I can't even game anymore without a shitload of American's getting on my case for being Canadian (Gamename: Canadian4206, or CanadianTO). Though it's pretty much always been like that, only gotten worse over the years.
Canada however gets a lot of respect from pretty much all the Europe Country's, expecially from the British People (Not Government).
So if Canada and the rest of the world can get along to so great, why not Canada and America?
I think it's because the American people are just not educated enough about the world around them. There education is all about America. Like they are in a little bubble (Probally due to having there Government run there education system).
Though in all fairness, Canadians are just naturally Anti-American apparently because Canadians are raised just so differently, more community bases and more friendly which is completly different from the American experience. America is just so different from Canada that it is hard not to be Anti-American. (Meaning Anti-American Government, not Anti-Americans).
We see the American Government for what it really is. The most corrupt, broken Government in the world. We always voice our opinion about that, however naturally as anybody would do. Americans stick up for there Government, which I would do if it was my Government. The Arguement remains.
Personally, I don't think there is much chance of Canada and the U.S. to really have a good relationship. Despite for our politicians.
Americans don't care about Canada (Obviously), so Canadians shouldn't care about America.
You know, I help volunteer in Katrina as well. I'll let you know when I get a thanks from them. Ugh, brings back some angry feelings.
Bring back the Blues music in New Orleans, you will see what will happen to your angry feelings.
I would be happy if they just went back to New Orleans. Too bad there was 2 murders and bad stepdad's truck hot stolen while they were in my city.
Benoit @ Thu May 01, 2008 2:06 pm
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
The socialist culture in Canada is a big obstacle to political change there.
Socialize medicine is a bigger policy debate in the US than in Canada!
ManifestDestiny @ Thu May 01, 2008 6:05 pm
Benoit Benoit:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
The socialist culture in Canada is a big obstacle to political change there.
Socialize medicine is a bigger policy debate in the US than in Canada!
Says you and the media, And Hillary Clinton
Benoit @ Thu May 01, 2008 6:31 pm
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Benoit Benoit:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
The socialist culture in Canada is a big obstacle to political change there.
Socialize medicine is a bigger policy debate in the US than in Canada!
Says you and the media, And Hillary Clinton
Deads don't speak in public. But some seem to vote Republicans!?
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