How the War on Terror gave rise to ISIS
Robair @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:51 am
This "War on Terror" must have happened after Rambo III. ![[huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif "huh?"){kind=icon}
BeaverFever @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:10 pm
Yep the Islamist "Mujahideen" were Reagan's friends back then.
2Cdo @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:10 pm
When the two "special ed kids" start tag-teaming and jerking each other off you know you struck a nerve with them.
But it's just a normal response from the left towards anyone in the military. The accusations of uneducated drop-out reflect their true feelings of anyone who thinks different from them.
And the wonder why the political right is finally sick of their condescending bullshit and reacts to them the way we do.
2Cdo @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:11 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Yep the Islamist "Mujahideen" were Reagan's friends back then.
Next you'll tell us the Mujahideen became the taliban.
Thanos @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:30 pm
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.... Thanos with his skinhead contacts can organize the Kristallnacht for us.....
BeaverFever @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:44 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo:
When the two "special ed kids" start tag-teaming and jerking each other off you know you struck a nerve with them.
But it's just a normal response from the left towards anyone in the military. The accusations of uneducated drop-out reflect their true feelings of anyone who thinks different from them.
And the wonder why the political right is finally sick of their condescending bullshit and reacts to them the way we do.
But it's just a normal response from the left towards anyone in the military. The accusations of uneducated drop-out reflect their true feelings of anyone who thinks different from them.
And the wonder why the political right is finally sick of their condescending bullshit and reacts to them the way we do.
No rebuttal or counterargumen or even denial....just more typical goon name-calling. And I'm not supposed to look down on you?
Hey do you ever read the Canadian Forces Journal? Because I have a good one for you. Everything in my last post and more, written by one of Canadas most prolific military historians. (PDF)
$1:
UP FROM THE ASHES: THE RE-PROFESSIONALIZATION OF THE CANADIAN FORCES AFTER THE SOMALIA AFFAIR
...The Canadian military’s leadership ‘saw the world in black and white’; nuance or independent thinking was unnecessary, perhaps even dangerous. If truly serious strategic thinking was required, the Americans and the British could do it. As one recent article written by two serving Canadian colonels observes:
"Within this model, higher education had little impor- tance. [The army] stressed training (a predictable response to a predictable situation) to the virtual exclusion of education, a reasoned response to an unpredictable situation, that is, critical thinking in the face of the unknown....this fervent anti- intellectualism denuded the officer corps of individuals capable of, or willing to undertake, analysis, critical thinking, reflection and visioning in the larger geo-political and societal context.”
...Certainly, the Canadian military continued throughout the Cold War to attract some very good people. Some of them were determined to raise the standards of education and professionalism. A few even put themselves through graduate school while still in uniform. A number of these individuals eventually helped to carry through some of the reforms of the post-1997 era, or distinguished themselves in the very tough operational environment of the 1990s in Bosnia and elsewhere. But the military also attracted the type of officers and troopers who beat Shidane Arone to death, who stood around while it was happening, or who tried to cover it all up. The Canadian military’s anti-intellectual conservatism, its rejection of reform, its failure to engage in challenging thinking – even of the basic strategic norms that disappeared as the Cold War ended – flew in the face of rapid change in Canadian society itself.
...The Canadian military’s leadership ‘saw the world in black and white’; nuance or independent thinking was unnecessary, perhaps even dangerous. If truly serious strategic thinking was required, the Americans and the British could do it. As one recent article written by two serving Canadian colonels observes:
"Within this model, higher education had little impor- tance. [The army] stressed training (a predictable response to a predictable situation) to the virtual exclusion of education, a reasoned response to an unpredictable situation, that is, critical thinking in the face of the unknown....this fervent anti- intellectualism denuded the officer corps of individuals capable of, or willing to undertake, analysis, critical thinking, reflection and visioning in the larger geo-political and societal context.”
...Certainly, the Canadian military continued throughout the Cold War to attract some very good people. Some of them were determined to raise the standards of education and professionalism. A few even put themselves through graduate school while still in uniform. A number of these individuals eventually helped to carry through some of the reforms of the post-1997 era, or distinguished themselves in the very tough operational environment of the 1990s in Bosnia and elsewhere. But the military also attracted the type of officers and troopers who beat Shidane Arone to death, who stood around while it was happening, or who tried to cover it all up. The Canadian military’s anti-intellectual conservatism, its rejection of reform, its failure to engage in challenging thinking – even of the basic strategic norms that disappeared as the Cold War ended – flew in the face of rapid change in Canadian society itself.
http://www.journal.forces.gc.ca/vo9/no3 ... on-eng.pdf
You probably haven't read it. The reforms to the CF that created this publication are the same that discouraged people like you from joining or staying. I'm not anti military, I'm anti-you.
BeaverFever @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:07 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Yep the Islamist "Mujahideen" were Reagan's friends back then.
Next you'll tell us the Mujahideen became the taliban.
No no, I'm sure those Islamist ethnic Pashtuns inhabiting the Afghan-Pakistan tribal areas are completely different from these Islamist ethnic Pashtuns inhabiting the Afghan-Pakistan tribal areas.
Next you'll tell us the Mujihadeen became the "Northern Alliance".
BRAH @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:13 pm
Sebastian Junger Afghanistan Revealed Ahmad Shah Massoud and the Northern alliance
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Zipperfish @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:47 pm
ISIS copied the warfare style of the Taliban, which was remarkably effective, against other local warlords, that is. And like the Taliban they are built to conquer more than govern.
ISIS is more dangerous, because they got a lot of battle-hardened soldiers from Iraq. And while the Taliban were utterly contemptuous of what outsiders thought, ISIS has quite a sophisticated propaganda wing. Not as good as ours though.
BeaverFever @ Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:05 pm
BRAH BRAH:
Sebastian Junger Afghanistan Revealed Ahmad Shah Massoud and the Northern alliance
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Kinda a propaganda piece. You know that the name "Northern Alliance" was made up by the Bush White House for western media right? The group's real name is "United Islamic Front for the Salvation of Afghanistan". The group and its leader Massoud were funded and controlled by Iran. So the image as a passionate and kind man who just wants peace and justice and freedom is a little insincere.