Alberta Election
Yogi @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:34 pm
bootlegga bootlegga:
Yogi Yogi:
bootlegga bootlegga:
My bet is one of the first things Smith would do is re-instate the health care premium. It wouldn't bother me too much, but I have no doubt it would be a nail in her coffin.
The key is deciding what's 'unnecessary'. What is unnecessary to you may be critical to other people - based on your posting history, you probably wouldn't care about cuts to education - but that would affect millions of Albertans.
Regarding the rest of your suggestions, they already happened back in 2009 - pay increases, perks, benefits for ALL civil servants were cut - they even had a two year hiring freeze - resulting in hundreds of positions left empty.
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My 'posting history' as it relates to this particular subject. Please expand!)
Why should I care about any kids education? Especially that of my Grandchildren & neices & nephews!Not trying to be snarky or anything, but to me, you always come across as a lifelong bachelor type...I didn't realize that you had children/grandchildren in your life.
Either way, the two biggest costs are education and health care, and short of letting private companies do that, there isn't all that much fat to trim off the budget. Sure, we can pull a Klein and send our welfare recipientts of BC via Greyhound or cut back AISH, but the reality is that the current government has cut the budget pretty sharply.
Anyone comparing 2012 and 2007 (as Wildrose is doing) has no clue when it comes to economics. It's easy to have a balanced budget when oil and natural gas are at all time highs and the global economy is on a tear, it's a little harder to do when resource prices (and demand) have fallen sharply and the global economy is in the doldrums.
I'm a bachelor now,

but collectively, I have 38 years of marriage behind me! My 2 kids are 'members' here on CKA as well.
As I stated in an earlier post, I have adopted a 'wait & see attitude'. Alison Redford has said " We will balance the budget....
sometime in the future"! Danielle Smith has come right out and stated that 'they too will balance the budget'. She hasn't, to my knowledge said how/when she planned on accomplishing this feat.
We know that every dept. of govt has a 'slush fund' yet they all cry for more $$$. I want to see, regardless of the party in power, all budgets frozen & reviewed by independant auditors. Cuts where cuts can be made, again starting from the top down, and no new projects. Finish the ones which are actually started as of today. That would mean no arena unless Edmonton wants to pony up the cash. No new libraries etc. Healthcare premiums should be reinstated for those of middle income and up.
We don't need a review of royalties. We already know that we are getting screwed on that fron! Everyone whines that the Oil Co.'s will leave. Where the hell are they going to go to mine product? Peru? I also want to see a return to 'regulated' hydro. We are all taking a real screwing there as well.
Yogi Yogi:
We know that every dept. of govt has a 'slush fund' yet they all cry for more $$$. I want to see, regardless of the party in power, all budgets frozen & reviewed by independant auditors.
What you say was true, but one thing Premier Redford did before the election was go to a 'zero funding model for every government department. Which means, there is no 'allocated' budget but funding will be used as needed.
So, no more 'March madness' where departments spend all their remaining budget on blow and hookers in fear they won't get the same funding next year (that they apparently didn't need anyhow).
I could tell you stories . . .
...stories that would make you weep about the stupidity of March Madness.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I could tell you stories . . .

oh man, don't get me started......
Alberta gov't will be clean as pink, compared to what happens in Brussels.
Yogi @ Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:47 pm
Redford does about-face on 'no-meet' committee pay 54
First posted: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:41 AM MDT | Updated: Thursday, March 29, 2012 03:53 PM MDT
After admitting her government should have acted sooner, Premier Alison Redford called on Progressive Conservative MLAs to pay back their compensation from the controversial ‘no-meet’ committee and promised to end MLA transition allowance.
She made both announcements at a campaign stop in Edmonton Thursday saying that she has wanted to close the door on the old way of conducting politics when she ran for leader of the P.C. Party last year.
“All Progressive Conservative MLAs will be expected to pay back every penny of money received from the Committee that has not met since 2008,” Redford said. “Any MLAs who do not will not have a place in my Caucus.”
“Further, the overly generous transition allowances paid to retiring MLAs are suspended from this day forward and I will not accept a transition allowance, win, lose or draw.”
Former MLAs will still be entitled to the transition allowance already accrued up until this point.
She explained that MLA Compensation has been broken for a long time, which is why she asked former Supreme Court Justice John Major to take a comprehensive look at how MLAs are paid, keeping a promise she made last year.
“At that time I made clear that we must move to a system in which elected officials are paid the way Albertans are paid.”
Redford continued to be dogged by questions about Alberta’s so-called “no meet” committee on the campaign trail, which is officially called the committee on privileges and elections, standing orders and printing, even though it was revealed in January that more than 20 MLAs were paid at least $1,000 a month despite not meeting since November 2008.
She said leadership is about making difficult decisions and sometimes admitting you were wrong.
“Growing up I was always taught that the only thing worse than making a mistake was not admitting it and fixing it,” Redford said. “I made a mistake on these issues and now I am fixing them.”
Meanwhile in red Deer, Wildrose leader Danielle Smith is accusing Tory leader Alison Redford of flip-flopping on the no-meet committe fiasco.
"It's clearly full panic mode," said Smith of Redford's recent decision on the matter, as the Wildrose leader stopped in Red Deer to campaign.
"It's remarkable that it took a drastic drop in the polls to convince Ms. Redford to do the right thing.
"It's a shame that it took us being in the middle of an election for her to get a pang of conscience, maybe that's what PC actually stands for these days."
She said Redford made the flip-flop as the Tories face tanking poll numbers and a sputtering campaign.
-With files by Renato Gandia
I've got to agree with Smith on the reason for Redfords flip-flop. Redford has always spouted "Pshaw" when it comes to poll results, yet if she isn't reacting to the polls, why the sudden change of direction?
SprCForr SprCForr:
...stories that would make you weep about the stupidity of March Madness.

Uh.... yeah. Stoooopid...
Yogi Yogi:
bootlegga bootlegga:
Not trying to be snarky or anything, but to me, you always come across as a lifelong bachelor type...I didn't realize that you had children/grandchildren in your life.
Either way, the two biggest costs are education and health care, and short of letting private companies do that, there isn't all that much fat to trim off the budget. Sure, we can pull a Klein and send our welfare recipientts of BC via Greyhound or cut back AISH, but the reality is that the current government has cut the budget pretty sharply.
Anyone comparing 2012 and 2007 (as Wildrose is doing) has no clue when it comes to economics. It's easy to have a balanced budget when oil and natural gas are at all time highs and the global economy is on a tear, it's a little harder to do when resource prices (and demand) have fallen sharply and the global economy is in the doldrums.
I'm a bachelor now,

but collectively, I have 38 years of marriage behind me! My 2 kids are 'members' here on CKA as well.
As I stated in an earlier post, I have adopted a 'wait & see attitude'. Alison Redford has said " We will balance the budget....
sometime in the future"! Danielle Smith has come right out and stated that 'they too will balance the budget'. She hasn't, to my knowledge said how/when she planned on accomplishing this feat.
We know that every dept. of govt has a 'slush fund' yet they all cry for more $$$. I want to see, regardless of the party in power, all budgets frozen & reviewed by independant auditors. Cuts where cuts can be made, again starting from the top down, and no new projects. Finish the ones which are actually started as of today. That would mean no arena unless Edmonton wants to pony up the cash. No new libraries etc. Healthcare premiums should be reinstated for those of middle income and up.
We don't need a review of royalties. We already know that we are getting screwed on that fron! Everyone whines that the Oil Co.'s will leave. Where the hell are they going to go to mine product? Peru? I also want to see a return to 'regulated' hydro. We are all taking a real screwing there as well.
Well, I know an accountant who works for the Treasury Board, and she told me that many there worked long, hard hours finding a way to come up with the $110 million for education and AISH payments Redford promised in her leadership campaign. That's right - they had to search high and low to find $110 million in a $40 billion budget because Redford insisted on not borrowing an extra penny to fund her campaign promises. That's how serious she is about balancing the budget as soon as possible.
When I hear promises of no cuts to anything, additional payments to the HTF and a balanced budget, I call bullshit. Smith to me just seems to inexperienced (some might say naive) to run our province. If I have to choose between a former cabinet minister or a dismissed school board trustee, I'll choose experience every time.
I've never been much of a fan of the PCs, but Redford is the first premier since Lougheed (the best premier Alberta ever had IMHO) that we can be proud of. Let's stop hiring football players, reporters and farmers to run our province and actually get someone who has some relevant experience - and that person is Redford.
DrCaleb @ Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:10 am
$1:
Redford does about-face on 'no-meet' committee pay 54
First posted: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:41 AM MDT | Updated: Thursday, March 29, 2012 03:53 PM MDT
After admitting her government should have acted sooner, Premier Alison Redford called on Progressive Conservative MLAs to pay back their compensation from the controversial ‘no-meet’ committee and promised to end MLA transition allowance.
Did you read that news article where they caught this bank robber, and he said "oops! I guess I will just pay some of the money back as that is the morally correct thing to do, my bad".
And then a little later, when the cops were coming, he said "Oops! Guess I will have to pay it all back, that will make things all right".
No? You didn't read that story? Hmmmmmm. Odd.
Yea, I think she fell down on that one. Not that she created the committes to begin with, just when revealed to the public they should have been axed immediately and all the pay returned.
Yogi @ Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:11 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
$1:
Redford does about-face on 'no-meet' committee pay 54
First posted: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:41 AM MDT | Updated: Thursday, March 29, 2012 03:53 PM MDT
After admitting her government should have acted sooner, Premier Alison Redford called on Progressive Conservative MLAs to pay back their compensation from the controversial ‘no-meet’ committee and promised to end MLA transition allowance.
Did you read that news article where they caught this bank robber, and he said "oops! I guess I will just pay some of the money back as that is the morally correct thing to do, my bad".
And then a little later, when the cops were coming, he said "Oops! Guess I will have to pay it all back, that will make things all right".
No? You didn't read that story? Hmmmmmm. Odd.
Yea, I think she fell down on that one. Not that she created the committes to begin with, just when revealed to the public they should have been axed immediately and all the pay returned.
And the Nd's got caught red-handed as well, and said"we did'nt do nothin wrong, and
we ain't giving any $$$ back"!
bootlegga bootlegga:
Well, I know an accountant who works for the Treasury Board, and she told me that many there worked long, hard hours finding a way to come up with the $110 million for education and Aish payments Redford promised in her leadership campaign. That's right - they had to search high and low to find $110 million in a $40 billion budget because Redford insisted on not borrowing an extra penny to fund her campaign promises. That's how serious she is about balancing the budget as soon as possible.
Ask your account friend from the treasury board how hard it was to increase the school tax 5.5% for the biggest one time increase in 20 years, and also change the school tax from a fixed rate to one that works on your accessed property value.
Bottom line for me is an increase of close to $150 just for education on my tax bill this year, yep they sure worked hard long hours to come up with that.
1Peg @ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:18 pm
The latest poll (SNN) has Danielle Smith @ 41 %.
1Peg @ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:22 pm
http://www.electionalmanac.com/ea/alberta-election-polls/
Caelon @ Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:50 pm
Thanks for the link 1Peg. It was interesting to look at the change from 2008 till now. The WR has come up 30 points in the polls at the expense of the Liberals and the PC's. So far this year it has turned into a 2 party race, where in the past it has been mostly a foregone conclusion who would be elected.
This time there does not seem to be a split on idealogical grounds as both front runners are right wing parties. It is more of a split based on status quo versus change with the most likely successful alternative.
Caelon Caelon:
Thanks for the link 1Peg. It was interesting to look at the change from 2008 till now. The WR has come up 30 points in the polls at the expense of the Liberals and the PC's. So far this year it has turned into a 2 party race, where in the past it has been mostly a foregone conclusion who would be elected.
This time there does not seem to be a split on idealogical grounds as both front runners are right wing parties. It is more of a split based on status quo versus change with the most likely successful alternative.
There is definitely a split on ideological grounds - the PCs are red Tories while the Wildrose are far more right wing. As a result, I know many people here in Edmonton who are considering voting PC for the first time in their lives to prevent this.
The first thing a WRA government will do is slash the civil service, cut spending on infrastructure (her brilliant idea to balance the budget) and cozy up to the oil companies (even more than the PCs already do).
Yogi @ Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:43 pm
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/04/02/w ... ate-checks
Not too sure how I feel about 'Dani-Dollars'. ( yogi
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I'm kind of agreeing with Redford on this until Smith can explain in detail just how she plans to do this without negative effect. As one analyst noted, "It's good politics, but bad policy".