Alberta Election
Yogi Yogi:
I'm kind of agreeing with Redford on this until Smith can explain in detail just how she plans to do this without negative effect. As one analyst noted, "It's good politics, but bad policy".
I thought 'Klien bucks' were bad too. I know using it for programs is irresponsible - throw in the the Heritage fund. Let the damn principal accumulate until the interest pays the yearly budget, or a significant portion of it.
I think most of what Smith promises is good politics, but bad policy.
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Yogi Yogi:
throw in the the Heritage fund. Let the damn principal accumulate until the interest pays the yearly budget, or a significant portion of it.
This!
Should be where the health care premiums (instead of removed) should have been going as well!
Thanos @ Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:58 am
They blew up a perfectly functional hospital here once and people showed up to cheer the spectacle. Well, Calgary did anyway. I'm fairly certain that Edmonton would have fought that particular bit of stupidity a hell of a lot harder. Regardless of where though, it's a good example of how truly and deliberately dumb people in this neck of the woods can be when they want to. Smith-bucks is the same thing. Cheap flashy politics designed to entice the rubes. The Calgary SUN is already cheering the entire idea so you know right there with that endorsement that this whole silly concept is designed to appeal mostly to the sammich people who can't think outside of the moment as opposed to those of us who can still rub a few brain cells together.
andyt @ Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:03 am
peck420 peck420:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Yogi Yogi:
throw in the the Heritage fund. Let the damn principal accumulate until the interest pays the yearly budget, or a significant portion of it.
This!
Should be where the health care premiums (instead of removed) should have been going as well!
What's this love of a regressive tax people have?
DrCaleb @ Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:06 am
Thanos Thanos:
They blew up a perfectly functional hospital here once and people showed up to cheer the spectacle. Well, Calgary did anyway. I'm fairly certain that Edmonton would have fought that particular bit of stupidity a hell of a lot harder.
The Charles Camsell hospital is still boarded up and unused, going on 20 years. there comes talk of opening it up for different purposes including low cost housing and another hospital. Then the NIMBYs come out.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&sugexp ... a=N&tab=wl
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Yogi Yogi:
I'm kind of agreeing with Redford on this until Smith can explain in detail just how she plans to do this without negative effect. As one analyst noted, "It's good politics, but bad policy".
I thought 'Klien bucks' were bad too. I know using it for programs is irresponsible - throw in the the Heritage fund. Let the damn principal accumulate until the interest pays the yearly budget, or a significant portion of it.
I think most of what Smith promises is good politics, but bad policy.
I think it's a bad idea too - but already members of my family are crowing about how great it would be to get $300 once and a while. I put paid to that during a discussion yesterday.
Frankly though, it doesn't surprise me one bit. Smith thinks she can maintain social care spending, health care and education without any cuts, add to the HTF and somehow not run a deficit, all by simply scaling back infrastructure spending (from three years to four). I don't believe her for a second, but then given her lack of any real political experience, neither should anyone else IMHO.
I'll be the first to admit that the PCs have no credibility on the HTF, but I don't think Smith does either, given her wild-eyed dreamer ideas like this one.
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Thanos Thanos:
They blew up a perfectly functional hospital here once and people showed up to cheer the spectacle. Well, Calgary did anyway. I'm fairly certain that Edmonton would have fought that particular bit of stupidity a hell of a lot harder.
The Charles Camsell hospital is still boarded up and unused, going on 20 years. there comes talk of opening it up for different purposes including low cost housing and another hospital. Then the NIMBYs come out.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&sugexp ... a=N&tab=wlGene Dub had plans for the site, but the massive amounts of asbestos in the building have slowed his plans - however he has secured more funding and last I heard and is moving the project along.
http://westedmontonlocal.ca/2011/03/vac ... -15-years/
Curtman @ Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:27 am
I give exactly 0 sh*ts about the Alberta election. I thought this was entertaining though.
Smith accuses 'liberal' Tories of fearmongering
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Smith was referring to a controversy that's developed over her party's position on "conscience rights," which would allow public servants to opt-out of providing services they consider morally objection-able. This could allow a marriage commissioner to refuse to wed same-sex couples or a doctor to refuse to prescribe birth control.
Redford said Wednesday she was "frightened" by the Wil-drose position, a message she repeated Thursday though she denied she was demonizing anyone.
"I'm not but I am frightened," she told reporters in Calgary.
"I was absolutely amazed we were having this conversation in Alberta, because I believe that all Albertans want to live in a place where we respect each other, where we feel safe, where whether you are a woman or a young girl or a new Albertan you're going to be treated equally and that we're going to be able to ensure that everyone in this province knows that they can receive public services in a way that doesn't discriminate against them."
Bwaaa haa haaa... Respect each other.. In Alberta.
Redford — Alberta's first NDP premier
You may recall that when the Tory government passed the provincial budget late last month, Premier Alison Redford said it was necessary to do so on the eve of an election call so that voters would know exactly what her government was planning.
Well, that noble commitment to transparency lasted about 10 days.
Wednesday, in another holier-than-thou announcement from Premier Nanny, Redford pledged an extra $2.4 billion in school-construction spending over the next four years – an amount that did not appear in March’s budget. So much for knowing exactly what her Tories have planned.
Redford made her promise of 50 new schools and 70 renovated ones by 2016 in direct response to Monday’s pledge by Wildrose Leader Danielle Smith to return 20 per cent of any future budget surplus to Albertans in the form of an energy dividend cheque. The premier pointed out that the $1.2 billion that 50 new schools would cost and the $1.2 billion for 70 retrofits were each equal to one year’s worth of “Danielle dollars.” When it comes to choosing cheques or more schools, Redford said, “my priority is schools for children.”
Give me a break.
This is yet another example of the premier’s left-of-centre belief in big government, more proof that she is, in every practical sense, Alberta’s first NDP premier. If I were the real NDP Leader, Brian Mason, I’d be thinking of suing Redford for trademark infringement.
No matter how much money the provincial government consumes, Redford is never satisfied. Return tax dollars to their rightful owners? Pashaw. In the premier’s mind, she and her government will always be better judges than ordinary Albertans of what should be done with any excess.
This unflinching faith in the omniscience of government is Redford’s biggest flaw.
Another problem with this pledge is that it amounts to a 180-degree turn for the Tories. Just before the election, Education Minister Thomas Lukaszuk was telling Albertans there was no way the government could afford all the new schools the province needs without creative financing – such as amortizing the cost of their construction over the new schools’ useful lives. But now that the Tories are in free fall – poof! – there’s plenty of money available to pay up front for new and renovated schools.
And just where does Redford imagine the construction crews will come from for 120 new infrastructure projects? (Make that 260 projects if we also count the 140 family health clinics she promised Monday – another new initiative that appears nowhere in the Tories’ supposedly be-all and end-all budget). Private construction projects are going begging for lack of skilled trades people in Alberta’s building boom. Does Redford intend to bid up the price of personal and corporate construction with her serge in school building?
But the biggest problem with the premier’s latest out-of-nowhere goodie is that more money isn’t needed to meet Alberta’s school construction needs; better management of existing revenues is the key.
Last month’s budget raised provincial spending by nearly 7% to a record $41.1 billion. That works out to a whopping $10,800 for each of the province’s 3.8 million men, women and children. No other government in the country even comes close. Ontario’s Liberal government, which is in second place, spends just $9,000 per resident and Quebec’s Liberals, who are third, spends $8,400. Even Ottawa spends just $7,800 per Canadian – 28% less per capita than Alberta. Neighbouring B.C. has nearly a million more residents and its provincial government spends roughly the same as ours.
It’s not that Redford cannot build new schools and return money to Albertans at the same time, it’s that she won’t.
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http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/04/05/g ... dp-premier
And now to top off the $100M she gave to the teachers for putting her into the big chair, she's giving them a $500 tax credit. Life is looking pretty good if your a teacher in AB.
gezzzzz I can't stand either woman. 
Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:
This is yet another example of the premier’s left-of-centre belief in big government, more proof that she is, in every practical sense, Alberta’s first NDP premier. If I were the real NDP Leader, Brian Mason, I’d be thinking of suing Redford for trademark infringement.
Ahh, good old hyperbole for hyperbole's sake.
Smith's budget would be only a billion and change less than less, so what does that make her? Alberta's best chance at a Liberal premier?
Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:
And just where does Redford imagine the construction crews will come from for 120 new infrastructure projects? (Make that 260 projects if we also count the 140 family health clinics she promised Monday – another new initiative that appears nowhere in the Tories’ supposedly be-all and end-all budget). Private construction projects are going begging for lack of skilled trades people in Alberta’s building boom. Does Redford intend to bid up the price of personal and corporate construction with her serge in school building?
Mighty convenient of Gunter to ignore Smith's budgetary brilliance - she's going to slow spending on infrastructure projects so that they take four years instead of three. She thinks that will save us $4 billion - which it won't because in four years, there's going to be ZERO workers to build things and construction costs will soar just like the did in 2005, 2006, 2007, and into 2008 until the recession hit. Odds are her bright idea is going to cost us even more than it would to pay for things now when construction costs are still cheaper than they were during the boom.
If we should have learned anything from the 90s, its that putting off infrastructure spending costs us much, much more in the long run.
Frankly, if I have to choose between a couple hundred bucks every year or two or stable funding for health and education, I'll take option #2 every time.
Unsound @ Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:00 pm
The last thing we need in this province is more delays to infrastructure. Massive influxes of people are one of the things that come with a boom. And people need infrastructure. Anyone who spends any time on the yellowhead knows that...
Yogi @ Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:43 pm
Wildrose continues to dominate
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/04/06/w ... nate-polls
Yogi @ Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:47 pm
MLA GETS BUMS RUSH
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/04/07/c ... aign-trail
5 OR 6 times! I'd have only told him once. Lukaszuk has all the charisma of a used-car salesman.
Curtman Curtman:
I give exactly 0 sh*ts about the Alberta election. I thought this was entertaining though.
Smith accuses 'liberal' Tories of fearmongering$1:
Smith was referring to a controversy that's developed over her party's position on "conscience rights," which would allow public servants to opt-out of providing services they consider morally objection-able. This could allow a marriage commissioner to refuse to wed same-sex couples or a doctor to refuse to prescribe birth control.
Redford said Wednesday she was "frightened" by the Wil-drose position, a message she repeated Thursday though she denied she was demonizing anyone.
"I'm not but I am frightened," she told reporters in Calgary.
"I was absolutely amazed we were having this conversation in Alberta, because I believe that all Albertans want to live in a place where we respect each other, where we feel safe, where whether you are a woman or a young girl or a new Albertan you're going to be treated equally and that we're going to be able to ensure that everyone in this province knows that they can receive public services in a way that doesn't discriminate against them."
Bwaaa haa haaa... Respect each other.. In Alberta.

Apparently you give more than zero shits since you had to wade into the thread and squeeze what little bit of mind has been left untouched by your drug habits to shit out the moronic missive. It does confirm that you should finish it off since that 'mind' had fuck all useful to say before you began the daily pot addiction.
Gunnair Gunnair:
Apparently you give more than zero shits since you had to wade into the thread and squeeze what little bit of mind has been left untouched by your drug habits to shit out the moronic missive. It does confirm that you should finish it off since that 'mind' had fuck all useful to say before you began the daily pot addiction.
In the outcome, but the spectacle of right wing -vs- right wing is extremely entertaining.
Alta. Tory says he was punched while door knocking$1:
"He just stood there and started arguing and saying 'Why don't you like me?' and 'What have I ever done to you?"' Al Michalchuk says. "He just wouldn't leave."
Michalchuk said he eventually put his hand on Lukaszuk's shoulder and "nudged" him, still asking him to leave. He said he also put his hand between his shoulder blades, but he said he was never abusive.
"I'm 67 years old, I've got severe asthma, I'm in the final stages of liver failure. I don't know how much longer I've got to live. I couldn't punch my way out of a wet paper bag," he said.
I also enjoy your rants sometimes. You need your own cartoon.