Bush, Cheney, Rice and company ...Heads in the sand
Constantinople @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:52 pm
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
The only problem with yours is that they would be looking down from paradise at a country going to hell and wishing they could help in some way.
Wrong. But anyway, we've come full circle so should we move on?
Bouboumaster @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:05 pm
USA will destroy their culture. This is the baddest thing that can happen.
No, not really. The really Baddest thing that can happen is this: The USA destroy the Irakian culture, and implant the USA culture to Irakians. That's the baddest thing that can happen.
The Hoser @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:47 pm
Constantinople Constantinople:
Franco Unamerican Franco Unamerican:
PJB PJB:
Hey there Dark..Firstly I am not defending what the coalition of the braindead is doing over in Iraq but, imagine what would have been said if the media had the instant access to numbers during WWII. Could you possibly imagine the outcry over the civilian deaths during the battle of Britain or the bombings of Dresden? What about live coverage of the US carpet bombings in Vietnam. These were, basically, secret wars. Nobody knew what was actually going on.
The media has us as their puppets. They tell us what to think and how to act. We have been brainwashed by technology and are all too stupid to change the friggin' channel.
The media has us as their puppets. They tell us what to think and how to act. We have been brainwashed by technology and are all too stupid to change the friggin' channel.
By this logic, during WWII we would have instantly known about the amount of jews and ruskies being exterminated in the concentration camps. We would know the way conquered people were being treated, ie. destroyed, exterminated, genocide. These reasons would have been enough to unite the allies against the huge threat.
Just like the knowledge of Saddam's own genocide has united everyone against him?
Just like the knowledge of the US' own genocide has turned it's own people againts it?
Constantinople @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:48 pm
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
Constantinople Constantinople:
Franco Unamerican Franco Unamerican:
PJB PJB:
Hey there Dark..Firstly I am not defending what the coalition of the braindead is doing over in Iraq but, imagine what would have been said if the media had the instant access to numbers during WWII. Could you possibly imagine the outcry over the civilian deaths during the battle of Britain or the bombings of Dresden? What about live coverage of the US carpet bombings in Vietnam. These were, basically, secret wars. Nobody knew what was actually going on.
The media has us as their puppets. They tell us what to think and how to act. We have been brainwashed by technology and are all too stupid to change the friggin' channel.
The media has us as their puppets. They tell us what to think and how to act. We have been brainwashed by technology and are all too stupid to change the friggin' channel.
By this logic, during WWII we would have instantly known about the amount of jews and ruskies being exterminated in the concentration camps. We would know the way conquered people were being treated, ie. destroyed, exterminated, genocide. These reasons would have been enough to unite the allies against the huge threat.
Just like the knowledge of Saddam's own genocide has united everyone against him?
Just like the knowledge of the US' own genocide has turned it's own people againts it?
Yeah....
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I think someone's sig around here is "Why don't people think before they speak."
The Hoser @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:22 pm
Constantinople Constantinople:
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
Constantinople Constantinople:
Franco Unamerican Franco Unamerican:
PJB PJB:
Hey there Dark..Firstly I am not defending what the coalition of the braindead is doing over in Iraq but, imagine what would have been said if the media had the instant access to numbers during WWII. Could you possibly imagine the outcry over the civilian deaths during the battle of Britain or the bombings of Dresden? What about live coverage of the US carpet bombings in Vietnam. These were, basically, secret wars. Nobody knew what was actually going on.
The media has us as their puppets. They tell us what to think and how to act. We have been brainwashed by technology and are all too stupid to change the friggin' channel.
The media has us as their puppets. They tell us what to think and how to act. We have been brainwashed by technology and are all too stupid to change the friggin' channel.
By this logic, during WWII we would have instantly known about the amount of jews and ruskies being exterminated in the concentration camps. We would know the way conquered people were being treated, ie. destroyed, exterminated, genocide. These reasons would have been enough to unite the allies against the huge threat.
Just like the knowledge of Saddam's own genocide has united everyone against him?
Just like the knowledge of the US' own genocide has turned it's own people againts it?
Yeah....
I think someone's sig around here is "Why don't people think before they speak."
I thought before I spoke. You may not agree with my thoughts, but I;'ve read enough about America's own genocide to formulate my own opinions. If you need a reference, me and you have already had this exact same debate on some ubscure thread a long time ago. Not worth going through again. As I recall, that ended with you simply not replying.
Constantinople @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:23 pm
American genocide?
And anyway, the car you added to that argument train did not fit.
It was just you bashing America for no reason whatsoever.
The Hoser @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:24 pm
Constantinople Constantinople:
American genocide?
Aye, American genocide.
Tman1 @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:25 pm
Calling it American Genocide is stretching it a little bit thin. The U.S don't go out of their way to kill a specific race in mass killings.
Constantinople @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:25 pm
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
Constantinople Constantinople:
American genocide?
Aye, American genocide.
What American genocide?
The Hoser @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:27 pm
Constantinople Constantinople:
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
Constantinople Constantinople:
American genocide?
Aye, American genocide.
What American genocide?
I already said let's not go into this again. Don't make me dig up that old thread just to show you.
Constantinople @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:28 pm
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
Constantinople Constantinople:
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
Constantinople Constantinople:
American genocide?
Aye, American genocide.
What American genocide?
I already said let's not go into this again. Don't make me dig up that old thread just to show you.
Just to show me that you have no idea what you're talking about and have chosen the life path of ignorance? By all means, dig.
The Hoser @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:29 pm
Tman1 Tman1:
Calling it American Genocide is stretching it a little bit thin. The U.S don't go out of their way to kill a specific race in mass killings.
How is it not genocide? Over the years, tens of thousands have died as a result of American intervention. Again, I'm not going to go into the dead forums to dig up the reference sites I used.
Constantinople @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:30 pm
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
Tman1 Tman1:
Calling it American Genocide is stretching it a little bit thin. The U.S don't go out of their way to kill a specific race in mass killings.
How is it not genocide? Over the years, tens of thousands have died as a result of American intervention. Again, I'm not going to go into the dead forums to dig up the reference sites I used.
How many more have lived? How many have died because people haven't intervened?
Tman1 @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:31 pm
The Dark Canuck The Dark Canuck:
Tman1 Tman1:
Calling it American Genocide is stretching it a little bit thin. The U.S don't go out of their way to kill a specific race in mass killings.
How is it not genocide? Over the years, tens of thousands have died as a result of American intervention. Again, I'm not going to go into the dead forums to dig up the reference sites I used.
Sorry Canuck that is not Genocide its called casualties of war.
This is Genocide - The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group. I dont see Americans doing that. Genocide requires critical thinking and planning. I dont see the U.S army doing much "thinking" nor the administration.
Franco Unamerican @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:27 pm
Constantinople Constantinople:
Franco Unamerican Franco Unamerican:
PJB PJB:
Hey there Dark..Firstly I am not defending what the coalition of the braindead is doing over in Iraq but, imagine what would have been said if the media had the instant access to numbers during WWII. Could you possibly imagine the outcry over the civilian deaths during the battle of Britain or the bombings of Dresden? What about live coverage of the US carpet bombings in Vietnam. These were, basically, secret wars. Nobody knew what was actually going on.
The media has us as their puppets. They tell us what to think and how to act. We have been brainwashed by technology and are all too stupid to change the friggin' channel.
The media has us as their puppets. They tell us what to think and how to act. We have been brainwashed by technology and are all too stupid to change the friggin' channel.
By this logic, during WWII we would have instantly known about the amount of jews and ruskies being exterminated in the concentration camps. We would know the way conquered people were being treated, ie. destroyed, exterminated, genocide. These reasons would have been enough to unite the allies against the huge threat.
Just like the knowledge of Saddam's own genocide has united everyone against him?
Oh is that what united "everyone" against Saddam ?? Here I thought it was WMDs... And I wouldnt call the American led coalition everyone...